Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Log Chain Tractor Pull????????????

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Farmallkid From

12-14-2005 13:33:27




Report to Moderator

Ok, I know Many of you despise this. Hooking 2 tractors drawbar to drawbar with a chain, and what ever tractor pulls the other one over the line wins. I was talkin to a guy who does this at a show. He said just have a youre foot ready on the clutch, if the front end goes up. Have any of you tried this? I know the danger, but would like to try it.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Wardner

12-16-2005 09:36:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
Wouldn't it be safer to swap wives with your friend than risk injury to yourselves or tractors.

When you are done, everyone will know how the equipment stacks up.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
crazy cooter

12-15-2005 11:51:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
Look my neighbor in the eye he has left and ask him whether you can get to the clutch in time!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Merle Hoppenworth

12-15-2005 05:55:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
Just one more true story, 2 Farmall M"s, gravel road, and a chain. When the wheels dug down about 12 inches the tractors started jumping up and down, chain broke, came across my head, dented the gas tank, blood runing down my neck and forehead, and just about blacked out. Last time I will ever do that again. I felt I was lucky. My suggestion, don"t do it.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
john d

12-14-2005 20:04:08




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
You won't truly "know the danger" until it's too late.
Previous posters have outlined some of the hazards, including the chance to wear part of that chain.
The "Just have your foot ready on the clutch" theory is just that - a theory. Even if you hit the clutch in time, the other guy may not. How are you gonna feel if he's under his tractor?
It's easy enough to get hurt when you think you're using your tractor correctly; back-to-back with a chain is not what the manufacturer intended.
Find another way to test your tractor.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JB2

12-14-2005 16:44:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
Hi Farmallkid, back in the early 1960s we had 3 farm tractor dealerships in our area, IH, MF and JD. The JD dealer was very competitive. Everytime he met a farmer somewhere that had bought a tractor from one of the other dealerships, he would berate their model and say how much better JD was. One day he was telling a farmer that lived close to his dealership how much better the JD3010 was than the MF85 that he had just purchased. The farmer challenged him to a pull off in the main street of the town on the next Saturday morning. They did as you said, hooked both the JD3010 and MF85 back to back with a logging chain on the paved street of the town. Now both tractors did not have differential lock so the result was, one tractor would spin one wheel and the other the opposite wheel. When a driver would touch the brake to the wheel that was spinning it would pull the other tractor back a couple feet till the other driver did the brake touch and then it would pull the other back a couple feet. So out come was a tie. The only winner was the tire companies as it must have worn a couple years worth of tread off the rear tires.

If you insist on doing it, 3/4" grade #90 chain would probably hold a tractor up to 100HP. Make sure it is grade #90 chain there is a lot of cheap imported chain. Also only hook to the lower drawbar NOT a 3PT drawbar and keep chain as short as possible not more than 3 to 4ft.
You DO NOT want to see 10ft of chain with a hook on it coming in your direction, I have been there done that.

My 2 cents
JB2

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Tye W

12-14-2005 16:42:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
My friend and I just tried this last Sunday. We just got the 1940 Farmall M running decent. Went down in the lower field hitched the John Deere 50 with the M and went at it. Both of us didn't budge an inch. We actually had to stop when the farmall ran out of gas. We did mange to leave four really deep ruts- which reminds me I still have to fill them in. Can't have one of the neighbors high $$ horses stepping in one of the holes.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Tim Shaw

12-14-2005 16:32:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
A few years ago we had a feed truck that was making a delivery to our place. Shortly after pulling off the gravel road and starting to our place the driver became stuck. Our local REA was working on the lines near by and tried to pull him out with a heavy duty pickup and a tow rope or strap. The hook broke on the rope where it was attached to the pickup and what was left of the hook went clear through the metal box on the feed truck. My brother also had a broken cable take his glasses off his face when we were pulling out a tractor that was stuck. It was a very close call and very scary. Enough can go wrong in the every day course of things. Why take chances by trying to chain two tractors draw bar to draw bar.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
AGR538

12-14-2005 14:33:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
I remember hearing a story about a man who farmed a few thousand acres and had two new CASE four-wheel drives. His employees (who lacked proper care and intelligence I might add) would catch him gone for the day, go down on the other side of the river levy so no one could see them and tie the two four wheel drives together and have a pull-off. This man I knew who farmed next to him said it was a sight to see. The farmer never could figure out why he was putting so many clutches in those tractors. He eventually went broke. Wonder why?

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Fluggie in Ia

12-14-2005 14:17:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
I get this creepy twinge down my spine just thinking of the many things that can go wrong with this scene! Worst one I envision is the chain snap and whips across the driver's face. Then there are many other pictures!!!! I strongly suggest to ignore the urge and just go eat a donut instead!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Paul Shuler

12-14-2005 14:16:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
Back in the 80's I was helping my brother in law get an 8n to start. We decided to pull it behind his F 150 Ford. He started pulling me around the barn lot and he yelled to let the clutch out, I did and the wheels slid for a ways then snap. The chain snapped and went through the tailgate and back window of the truck and cracked the windshield. Scared us to death. Never again with a chain.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
NDS

12-14-2005 15:32:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Paul Shuler, 12-14-2005 14:16:29  
Even worse than a chain breaking is to have one of the nylon pull straps stretched out and have attachment point break. Have pulled tractors and trucks for over 50 years and have never had a chain break, the secret is to use adequate chain. Trying to pull stumps etc. is different story.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Paul Shuler

12-14-2005 15:44:41




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to NDS, 12-14-2005 15:32:05  
I agree with that. A metal end on a nylon strap would have been just as bad.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rnicholas

12-14-2005 14:01:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
It's not the act as you described that we would despise. What we would despise would be in the unnecessary heartache and grief to someone's mother, father, children, spouse that could come of such actions. Try this quote: "Life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid."



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson

12-14-2005 13:40:23




Report to Moderator
 Re: Log Chain Tractor Pull???????????? in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 12-14-2005 13:33:27  
A stout wheelie bar under drawbar and chained under axle would prevent massive danger, and allow only serious danger.
JimN



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
R-cubed

12-14-2005 15:01:19




Report to Moderator
 TD24 vs CaseIH quad? in reply to Janicholson, 12-14-2005 13:40:23  
On another site we discussed at length a pulloff between the above. Quiz: How big of a chain would be needed?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Randy-IA

12-14-2005 18:50:44




Report to Moderator
 Re: TD24 vs CaseIH quad? in reply to R-cubed, 12-14-2005 15:01:19  
Hi , I don't know how a tractor would react but back in the late 70's and early 80's we had pull-off's with van's in the van club's that were around then . Same thing , chained two customized , wide rear wheeled van's together on asphalt and smoked tires sometimes till they exploded . It really was good fun - back before the safety police started trying to get rid of fun . Today , at four-wheel drive event's they chain big wheeled four-wheel drive custom truck's to a immovable object and call it a smoke-off till the tires explode in some cases . I've been four-wheeling for fun for about the past 30 year's and wouldn't even think of pulling another vehicle with a chain or a " tow rope " - the kind with a hook on them . " Tow ropes " or " tow straps " with hook's are designed for just that - towing a movable vehicle . Chain's on the other hand offer no " give " and as such are extremely hard on vehicles . Recovery straps or the slang name " snatchum " or " snatch " strap's are designed to stretch and " recoil " so to speak , multiplying the force imposed by the movable recovering vehicle . They don't have hook's , just loop's at the end's and are available up to 60,000 lbs ultimate load capacity . They will still break sometimes so laying a coat , piece of carpet or a heavy towel over the midpoint will dampen the free ends if it does . This applies to chain or cable as well . It isn't as effective but is better than nothing . I witnessed a 1-1/2 " Hyster winch cable break years ago trying to get a D-9 Cat unstuck from a slurry pit . It wasn't pretty . Nobody got hurt but it dented the back of the Cat under the winch about 4" deep . That was 1/4 " steel plate . About how big of chain - personally , I'd add together the weight of both tractor's and multiply by 2 . Two tractors at 5000lbs each X 2 = 20000lbs . Get a chain that'll handle that load . The graded chain I use on the semi's will handle 6600lbs for a 3/8" chain . So think about it . Go to a sled pull or ask a puller what size chain is on the sled . JMHO . Take care and have fun ! ....Randy

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy