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re-entering old tractors(?); current availability

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DennisT

01-01-2006 17:43:58

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This might be a little off-topic, and a little,"windy," but I'll give it a go. I'm age 62. Collected John Deere's from 1965 until about 1980; Sold my last JD GP about 1989. Now we've just bought a, "farmstead," of just under 5 acres in the wheatlands of NE WA state. My wife grew up near there and her ancestors had wheat farms there. It's a 1920 farmhouse and all the original farm buildings-in good shape. I know I'm in for some work. We move in fully this coming Spring. I have no intention of really, "farming." I also know I'll need some kind of loader tractor that can do light duty, push snow and, hopefully, run a three-point implement or two. My last work tractor was a Case/IH 485 I sold with 491 hours on it. (Hate myself now) I doubt I can afford a replacement of that kind. I also think old John Deere stuff has gone up in price more than the rest, so I gave up on that. I do like International. I am now unfamiliar with the old tractor market as well as the newer loader-tractor market (except it's expensive for a casual user), so....I need to catch up on things. Is there an International (Farmall) model that could fill my loader needs, be maintain-able (easy parts availability), and still be old enough to satisfy my desire for, "old iron????" So far a wide front end Farmall M with hydrolics and a 3-point come to mind; and I would expect $2,000 might get me a good one if I'm lucky. Any other ideas? I have begun to watch market/forum ads; tractors sold reports, etc. Thanks for listening, Dennis (expecting to get dirty again soon)

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DennisT

01-02-2006 09:55:13

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Gosh, guys, this is sounding like the good 'ol day in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

Thanks for all the comments. I haven't been around a lot of old iron for a few years, but your responses remind me of the good times I had then. You all have given me some good tips, and I am looking at slightly newer models; thanks burnetma/Rusty. Allan, I like your H w/loader. Can't see the bucket in your photo but it must reach to a 4th story at least (grin). Cowman's suggestion of a Fergy 35 isn't bad...but I wonder where the cut-off is for down-pressure on the bucket and full-time power steering. Sloroll's I504 looks like it might be ideal. Reminds me of my old 485. I think I would be way ahead to get something I can bring home and use right away. Paint and cosmetics can come later; mechanics first. I much prefer wide front ends. I think 30 to 45 hp is plenty. I'll need to move fine gravel and blade driveways right away early this coming summer. (outbuilding foundations need birming) I have a large windbreak to maintain as well as bare dirt areas around the house and buildings. Occasional snow removal, but hopefully not too often. My neighbor will keep at least 2 of my 4.65 acres in wheat as it adjoins a 535A chunk he farms. Any other comments you all might make are appreciated. Dennis

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MichaelNEIowa

01-02-2006 14:50:00

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Re: Gosh, guys, this is sounding like the good 'ol in reply to DennisT, 01-02-2006 09:55:13

A few tractors I"d consider are the Allis Chalmers WD-45 and Ford 860.

My brother has a WD-45 with wide front, loader, and 3pt and it has been a very handy tractor on his 30 acre horse/sheep farm. For heavier work, he has a JD 4020.

I have a Ford 860 (45hp, live hydraulic and live pto) and I love it, especially for blading out the barns on my 280 acres.

Of course, I also have a Farmall M, 300, and 806 rounding out my lineup.

Hope this helps.

Whatever you buy will depend on what"s available in your area and also depend on the amount of money you want to spend.

A good WD-45 will run you around $1500-2500 in the Midwest. The Ford will be $3800-4500.

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evielboweviel

01-02-2006 11:45:54

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Re: Gosh, guys, this is sounding like the good 'ol in reply to DennisT, 01-02-2006 09:55:13

A couple of good ones are:
MF35 deluxe,MF135, Oliver S55, 550 will have LPTO or IPTO, and possibly PS. Diesel cost more however are more usefull. International has very good tractors just not familar with the utilities. Also Ford 3000, 4000 late models with 3 cylinder diesel are good tractors.
Good luck
Ron

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Allan in NE

01-02-2006 11:07:13

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Re: Gosh, guys, this is sounding like the good 'ol in reply to DennisT, 01-02-2006 09:55:13

Dennis,

I gotta go with Sloroll's 504 idea too. They are more or less a 4-pop version of a 656 and that guy was one of IH's best tractors ever.

Allan

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Sloroll

01-02-2006 04:50:10

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

$3,500 bought me this handy 504. I had a 966 I just loved but needed $ and something smaller. This old girl is fantastic. As soon as I find one, I am going to put a 17 gal/min pump on it to replace the 12gpm currently there. The hydros work a tad slow ... but so do I

Good Luck! Shopping can sure be fun!

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Nebraska Cowman

01-02-2006 04:03:28

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

Oh yeah, I bought an old M with Farmhand loader when I came here in 1993 but as long as I own cattle it's NOT for sale. I have way too many tractors now mostly Farmalls but some other colors too, It's hard to choose sometimes. But if I were to downsise to 5 acres I believe "Peanut" (British Leyland 154) is the one I would keep. I could get slammed for this on a Farmall board but I think you would be real happy with a Ferguson 35. third party image

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Allan in NE

01-02-2006 01:43:26

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

Mornin' Dennis,

Boy, I just dunno. The darned M was the first tractor to give me that "power rush" and I'd really like to have another one just for old time's sake; but around here, the thing would just set and collect dust.

Trouble is, in today's world and in their original form, the H and the M are just about totally useless unless all you plan to pull is a yard drag.

You are gonna want to mow a little bit and use a loader; maybe even use a back blade, so I think I'd look up the chart a bit and get myself a little 504 or an old 656 factory equipped with a three point hitch, power steering, live power and live hydraulics.

This way, you don't have to start pouring money in these updates as soon as ya get it home, let alone any "fixin" it is gonna need.

I've got this old H under a loader and she's a real sweetie. Downside is that I've got close to $7K tied up in the thing to make it "functional" too.

Hope ya find what ya need,

Allan

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Ross

01-02-2006 12:34:32

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to Allan in NE, 01-02-2006 01:43:26

Allan I've got to take a serious disagreeing with your statement that H's and M's are useless today. Almost every farmer I know has one whether it's raking hay, spraying crops, running an auger, backing/moving wagons there are plenty of uses for those tractors. I've seen plenty of hay baled behind a H with a 24T pulling a wagon this year. That same H pulled a pull type mower mowing ditches and then ran an auger during harvest. Those old Farmalls are dirt simple, they start well year round and they don't use a lot of fuel.
Sorry an H or M may not fit Dennis's bill but they're certainly not useless. Dennis I've got a Oliver 55 I use for the same jobs you're describing and I love it.
Ross

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Red Joe

01-01-2006 23:21:24

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

You might also look into a International 340, or Farmall 340, if you want the row crop version, they're nice little tractors, and have two way hydralics. We have a 340 utility that we got 15 years ago from a county surplus action, they had a loader onit, unforunitly we didnt get the loader. But it always handled the loader well for them. We use all kinds of 3-point implements. and every now and then pull a mower, disc, baler, etc.

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Keith-OR

01-01-2006 21:33:14

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

Dennis, where are you located in NE Wash. I have a good friend in Benton City, Wash. with a couple of nice M's, life hydraulic. I think one has after market 3 pt.

I am located in NE OR. S of Tri-Cities

email is open

Keith & Shawn

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Sloroll

01-02-2006 04:44:39

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to Keith-OR, 01-01-2006 21:33:14

Hey Keith, Is your daughter Sarah?

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Keith-OR

01-02-2006 12:21:42

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to Sloroll, 01-02-2006 04:44:39

Nope, that's the neighbor girl, she thinks of me a dad cause I have always been there for her. Her mom and I are real good friends, and that is just friends...lol,(good way to end a great friendship is becoming intimate). Her and her mom are always coming to me for advice.

Super good people. She has been taking flying lessen and wants to get into flying as profession.

I told her to give you a holler.

Keith & Shawn

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burnetma

01-01-2006 18:09:14

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

Check out the IH 300 or 350 Utility tractors. About 35 PTO HP. They come with and without Torque Amplifiers, Live PTO and two point hitch which are easily converted to three point.

My IH 350 Utility had a Lord front end loader with a front mount hydraulic pump. Good weight and size tractor. Bigger and heavier than a Ford N series. Still tire chains are required in mud and snow with the FEL.

The Farmall 350, 400 and 450 are row crop tractors, but might meet your needs and have that nice rounded Farmall look.

If you are considering the Farmall M, you should also consider the H. Again, you will have to convert two point to three point, if they have any hitch at all.

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RustyFarmall

01-01-2006 18:04:18

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Re: re-entering old tractors(?); current availabil in reply to DennisT, 01-01-2006 17:43:58

If a three point hitch is an absolute necessity, then I would suggest that you look at something a bit newer than an M. The Farmall 300, 400, 350, or 450 came from the factory with a two point fast hitch, which is easily converted to 3 point. They also had live two way hydraulics and fully independent power take off, all in all a much more user friendly tractor than what the M is. I might add that 300,350 is an upgrade of the Farmall H, and the 400,450 is an upgrade of the M.

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DennisT

01-01-2006 18:13:28

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Thanks, I'll take a look, and another thing... in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 18:04:18

Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look. Another thing I am wrestling with is whether to follow through with a, "one tractor fits all/seim-antique," goal, or give up and get one, "antique," to play with and one newer, work tractor. I went at it that way in the past...not sure the dollars are there to do it this time. That decision involves more money issues than anything else.

Dennis

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