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Ben Rauls

01-08-2006 13:54:51

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doing axle seals and brake bands and seals, i broke this ring around the big shaft, it had what looks like shims behind it? Must be for the differential? Anyone have one laying around?

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Bill Meinze

01-13-2006 17:28:42

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Broke mine on the keft side of my H 10 years ago when I was removeing it to install a M&W live PTO clutch.Stuck it back in and have plowed and disked many many acres over the years with no problems.

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jeinsc

01-08-2006 18:58:24

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Well I do not feel so bad now that I know other people break them too. Got one coming .Jerry

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Ben Rauls

01-08-2006 17:23:23

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Glad i'm not the only one. Thanks to the great people on here, i have one on the way already!! Its great having some place to go when you need help. Thanks
Ben

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TDK

01-08-2006 17:18:05

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Join the club, Ben ! I broke one on a 330 this week. Replacing the axle & housing, I slid the bull gear onto the axle, but not all the way. Told bro to go ahead & tighten the axle housing bolts(with impact wrench).If I had not known better, I might not have felt so bad. Broke it at the usual place, where the ring gear carrier outer race fits. To my knowledge the only ones that fit ours is a 330 & 340 gas. The good news, I already have a few leads from this site.

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MagMan

01-08-2006 16:42:36

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Dont you just hate it when the IT manual says something is self exsplanitory or what ever it says. I cracked one on a completly restored M a few years back. It looked like it should come off. So I sold the tractor as far as I knowe its still going. I told the new owner to keep an eye on things and have never heard anything. I will admit it got a little scary when he called and asked if I knew why smoke would be coming from the rearend housing. when he was driving it up and down the road in 5th gear. I sugested he unrelease the brake latch. LOL I guess that solved the problem. JON

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williamf

01-08-2006 14:40:03

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

My Heavens, everybody else types faster than I do.
Glad to hear they're not that pricey.
Wm

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williamf

01-08-2006 14:36:34

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Here it is.
If you've broken the part I think you have, I'm sorry. If I'm thinking right, there's a part that looks like a plate, maybe a retainer sort of thing. It's really the "Bull Pinion Bearing Cage," (#2 in the drawing, 1-A would be the oil seal you were trying to get out)and a fairly serious part. third party image
This drawing is from my H parts book, but I think the M is the same. The bearing cage can't be removed without unbolting the bull gear from the axle and pulling it out of the way.
I hope I got that wrong, otherwise a salvage yard would be the best place for another one.
Good Luck, Wm

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tn terry t

01-08-2006 14:33:53

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

hey there ben dont feel bad buddy! i did the same thing on my h its called a bull pinion cage the good news it aint all that expencive to replace i got mine at wengers in pa for like 60 bucks shipping and all there are several online sources for this part good luck and i tell you something else you wont ever make that mistake again

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John M

01-08-2006 14:29:09

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Re: Look what I broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

Cant really tell by the pic,but did you break the whole thing or just one little section of it?

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Ben Rauls

01-08-2006 14:30:24

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Re: Look what I broke in reply to John M, 01-08-2006 14:29:09

it broke more than 3/4 the way around.

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Ben Rauls

01-08-2006 13:55:59

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:54:51

I tried puting a pic in, i put it in stuck and troubled. i'll try again.

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Ben Rauls

01-08-2006 13:56:57

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:55:59

Link this work?

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ChadS

01-09-2006 08:42:59

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to Ben Rauls, 01-08-2006 13:56:57

Your lucky Ben! last time I seen one break, it took the bearing flange on the differential too! You gotta remove the Bullgear to remove those! Thats what catches that bearing cage. The Supers, dont have that problem,, I think Ive got a few layin round,,, CHad

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Ben Rauls

01-09-2006 13:43:51

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Re: Look what i broke in reply to ChadS, 01-09-2006 08:42:59

Hey chad, just a dumb mistake. someone on here had one laying around, and its on the way already. Am in process of building the engine, and thought i might as well go all out and do everything. Thanks.
Ben

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