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Allan in NE

01-11-2006 05:17:20

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Mornin' Guys,

Today I have to widen out a wide front that hasn't been moved since the sixties.

Are there any new cuss words out there that I'm not familiar with? Have a feelin' I'm gonna need all the extra tools I can get fer this one! :>)

Allan

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jossette

01-11-2006 17:19:13

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

If you are not in a hurry. Take wheels off and then the wfe. Raise it vertical in a corner and pour the diesel to her. It'll be loose eventually without "burning" a whole in your pocket.

2 cents

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kopeck

01-11-2006 16:30:53

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

This probably wouldn't be the time to talk about narrowing my untouched A with nothing more then a good push would it?

Then again I got the good words out later trying to break a few wheel weight bolt free...

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SAm in NS

01-11-2006 14:13:24

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

Well, I've got a couple of words of wisdom, sort of personal motto's if you like.

"If in doubt, get a bigger hammer."

(The following one I heard on the CBC)
"If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin hard enough!"

Good luck, SAm in NS

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Hugh MacKay again

01-11-2006 12:56:46

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

Allan: I heated one of these center tubes until it was completely red. My helper on one of the torches said we were going to destroy it. I told him, "It's toast anyhow if we cant move it." That was 15 years ago and it's still under the tractor and with a loader.

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Hugh MacKay

01-11-2006 12:49:59

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

Allan: You haven't told us the cuss words you know. I've done three IH wide fronts not moved in 30 years. I'll ask my wife if she remembers and specific language. My Uncle Mort who wouldn't swear used "ducet damn thing" if that's any help.

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Chris in Washington

01-11-2006 13:58:28

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Re: Update in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-11-2006 12:49:59

Hugh, those are Canadian swear words that don't work down here.

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Hugh MacKay

01-11-2006 17:18:25

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Re: Update in reply to Chris in Washington, 01-11-2006 13:58:28

Chris: Mort was the only Canadian I ever knew that made those words work. Back in the 1930s, Mort and my dad were moving logs to a sawmill via horses and bobsleds. They each had a team and sleds and helped each other load and unload. In late winter the ground was starting become bare at the skidway, thus the team had to be moving well and stop in just the right spot for unloading, as the horses would never start it again. One of the mill employees stuck his head out the window and yelled WHOA, when Mort's team was yet about 6' from where he wanted to stop. They stopped. My dad was just out of his teens at that time, he said the adjectives Mort used both on the mill employee and the horses, would necesitate a new dictionary. Dad was down behind the sleds laughing when Mort caught him. Mort was my mom's uncle thus my great uncle. Dad didn't think it was quite so funny when they had to slide every log 6'to match the skidway. He probably had a few words of his own for that mill worker.

Actually I believe Mort's words were Methodist, probably the same both sides of border.

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Darald

01-11-2006 10:14:40

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

Two years ago we opened up the front tube on the 986. We ended up using an 806 chained to one spindle, a 4010 to the other, both tractors on a wet cement pad, spinning in low gear, with a big sledge, and a bigger Frenchman doing his thing, until it opened up. It took about an hour, and all turned out very well. Took the side grinder to the rust and then painted the newly exposed metal. Darald

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Quebec Red

01-11-2006 07:59:08

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

Saw a real nice 686 transform to a blackstripe Hydro 70 on the RPM site..... ..... .. With some seized front ends (TRACTORS I mean) we have, after removing all associated attaching hardware, carefully, maybe even very very carefully, butted the front wheel, one at a time, against an immoveable object and apply power. Make sure to place appropriate blocking under the axle such as when it breaks free it does not fall and possibly cause damage ( do not ask...).Sometimes the immovable object undergoes a miracle and becomes moveable. Usually pressure and sometimes a few well placed sledge hammer technology techniques are all that is required .Please note that in order for the BFH proceedure to be successful, it is imperative that you: A) Be a graduate of the University of Big F..... Hammers, preferrably with honors... B) that such diploma be conspicously displayed in your garage, appopriately framed and illuminated such that the recipient (tractor) can see it. Also place the surgical tool (BFH) close to the patient for a while, such that the patient may become familiar with the alternate possibilites. Now, in regards to vocabulary: Residing in Quebec, I could list the appropriate selections in your choice of English (think you are OK by yourself here); French or Greek (one of my good friends of many years is second generation Greek-Canadian). Problem is spelling and keyboard and Kim. No problem spelling the French though, st calis!!!!! ! Keep us informed of the progress. QR

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steve from mo - dangit!

01-11-2006 08:51:23

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Misplaced my diploma.... in reply to Quebec Red, 01-11-2006 07:59:08

I graduated from the UBFH quite a few years back. Where can I get a replacement diploma.

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Quebec Red

01-11-2006 14:30:22

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Re: Misplaced my diploma.... in reply to steve from mo - dangit!, 01-11-2006 08:51:23

In Canada we are two weeks away from an election. I see today that Mr. Harper and his group of trouble makers are hammering down hard on their opponents trying vainly to make themselves appear untouchable. So I would guess that the printing company that they hire (and probably pay mostly in cash...) surely must have a large supply. They sure as sh-- have every other gimmick in inventory. Just had to vent on these gullible Canadian lads. QR

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Hugh MacKay

01-12-2006 13:05:11

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Re: Misplaced my diploma.... in reply to Quebec Red, 01-11-2006 14:30:22

Red: You really don't like Harper, do you. well your better off than I, I don't like any of them.

The way I see it they could make everything GST taxable and increase the personal exemption on income tax to $50,000, $45,000. for spouce and $40,000. for each dependant. The government would save millions on administration, and could get rid of half those bozos at revenue Canada. We could decide our level of taxation based on our spending habits.

Right now they tell us basic food is GST exempt. That is the biggest joke of the last 50 years. Grocers have meals on their shelves, one zap of the micro wave and it's down the hatch. That damn micro wave meal is 90% service. Yet they tell me I must pay GST on my vegetable garden seeds. What in the name of H@## is more basic food than vegetable seeds. Seed potatoes are exempt, carrots, beans, peas, corn, etc., etc., etc. seeds are taxable.

I better quit before I really get wound up.

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mwkellner

01-11-2006 07:45:04

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

I am running into the same problem on a Cub. I was trying to use a jack to spread the axle with no success. I appreciate your suggestions. I have renewed hope.

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captaink

01-11-2006 06:30:45

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

If you need some, I think you can find some common ones translated to Klingon out on a Star Trek website somewhere =:0]>

Seriously, good luck with the flame wrench, jack, porta-power, air hammer, and what ever other tools you have to drag out for this project.

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sammy the RED

01-11-2006 05:55:02

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

Where the heck is the pic ?
Your camera broke ? ;o]

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Allan in NE

01-11-2006 05:59:35

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Re: Update in reply to sammy the RED, 01-11-2006 05:55:02

LOL!

Nope, just recharging the darned batteries in the thing. When she says "nuff", it's all over fer an hour. :>)

Allan

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Nebraska Cowman

01-11-2006 05:46:37

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

I keep using the same words over and over. If I SHOUT THEM LOUDER it makes me feel better.

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Sloroll

01-11-2006 05:24:37

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Re: Update in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2006 05:17:20

I'm trying to rein in a rear end myself Allan. Good luck to you. I am sure your enterprise will be much more successful than mine..

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Janicholson

01-11-2006 07:19:58

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Re: Update in reply to Sloroll, 01-11-2006 05:24:37

GOOODDD MMMOOORRRNNNIIINNNGGG.
Idea--- give it a run through the neurons.
Instead of pulling and pounding why not this:

Jack up one side of WFE (not an abbreviation for wife).
remove that wheel/tire
remove clamps/bolts on that side, and PB Blaster (Etc) to condition the rusted interface.
Use a 8+ ton Hyd jack and the following to push in on the axle to break it loose, then extend it after it moves some.

Support heavy 5/8 proof log chain around opposite spindle with a metal buffer to spread the load on the tube. Hold up the chain with some timber to keep gravity from sagging it while working.

Use a piece of heavy wall rectangular tube about 6-7 inches long to run the chain across the end with the wheel off of it.

Place the jack so that it works horizontally and its foot plate is against the spindle, and its ram is on the rect. tube. (a porta power would be nice as well).

Apply pressure, keeping the system straight, and the force aligned as much as possible with the Center line of the tubes of the axle.

Just brain ramblings, from JimN

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Andy Martin

01-11-2006 09:24:27

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Re: Update in reply to Janicholson, 01-11-2006 07:19:58

And wrap the chain one turn around the far spindle to keep it from coming up.

Shim the jack head to get jack horizontal.

Dent the spindle tube, split the shim, and watch the jack fly.

BTDT

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