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Super M vs John deere 60.

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mike 154

01-30-2006 18:05:42




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I posted this on the John Deere discusion forum, and would also like to hear of the thoughts that the Farmall guys might have. I just purchased this 60 and am interested as to how it compares to an M or super M? My experience has been limited to farmalls as these are the only machines I have ever known. I love my red tractors, and would never part with any of them. It"s that I"d like to have a fair and honest evaluation on these two machines. Thanks, for your help.
Mike

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Mike 154

01-31-2006 06:56:44




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to mike 154, 01-30-2006 18:05:42  
You are right, I didn't want to stir things up. I have always liked both lines of equipment for different reasons. But since I have little experience with Deere I wanted some knowledgeable peoples input. So I knew that if I went to each board I'd get each ones hartfelt opinion. In this way I could make my own assesment. Thanks to all for the help. I really appreciate the opinions you guys offer.
Mike

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captaink

01-31-2006 08:55:09




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to Mike 154, 01-31-2006 06:56:44  
According to the NE tractor tests in 1953 the JD 60 had 41 hp on the belt and 37 hp on the drawbar. In 1952 the Super M had 47 hp on the belt and 44 on the drawbar. Both these tests were on tractors of the same fuel type. Based on that information the SM would have the 60 for lunch in any type of pulling contest. The JD 70 was 48 hp on the belt and 42 on the drawbar so would have been fairly close.

My dad shelled a lot of corn and when the loaders came out to push the corn into the dragline, he always dreaded the guys with a hand clutch. He said you should have one hand to steer, one hand to run the loader, another to shift from forwards to reverse and one to run the clutch which was two more than he had.

JD advantage went to power steering, three-point hitch, and ease of clutch maintenance. Their drawbacks were the hand clutch and intermittent power pulses causing the belt to “ripple” under a hard load. Both were pretty much bullet proof.

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Ross

01-30-2006 21:41:44




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to mike 154, 01-30-2006 18:05:42  
I posted on this topic on the JD board and I don't think you posted on either board to stir up trouble but I just don't think you can get too much in the way of an objective answer. No matter what brands you are comparing and discussing when you go to one of those brand's home boards the home brand will be declared the best. Doesn't matter imo opinion if it's the farmall, JD, MM, MH, Oliver board what have you those guys have chosen what brand they like and what works best for them and they're going to defend it. It sounds like you like both tractors and that's what matters.
Ross

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gene bender

01-30-2006 20:11:42




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to mike 154, 01-30-2006 18:05:42  
Soil conditions and tillage stuff can vary as to how they are adjusted and in good repair. BUT i have drove 60JD and on tillage use the M is far more the better tractor for power. The 70 would be a better match for an M. Now do you want to talk about quiet easier steering getting on and off smooth comfort seat. Been there done that. The M FARMALL had head and shoulders above the rest of the class. Ever used a 60 JD with a loader or even lined one up with a belt. Better yet back a wagon with a 60.

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randy hall

01-30-2006 19:29:33




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to mike 154, 01-30-2006 18:05:42  
a super m will have a little more power than a 60 but the sixty had a three point power steering and live hydraulics and live pto. these are a lot of nice things to have even though we have three super m's.



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john d

01-30-2006 18:28:23




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to mike 154, 01-30-2006 18:05:42  
A 60 will come close to working with a stock M. A Super M will eat its lunch. For tillage work, a 70 is a better match with a Farmall SM.



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Allan in NE

01-30-2006 18:17:01




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 Re: Super M vs John deere 60. in reply to mike 154, 01-30-2006 18:05:42  
Hi Mike,

'Taint a thing wrong with that 60; they are one heck of a tractor.

Did you get the later model (55 I think) with the power steering?

Allan



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