Super C loader questions

A loader with two-way lift is preferable here, because of the limited hydraulic capacity of the Super C. You would otherwise need an external hydraulic fluid tank with one-way lift. In fact, you still might depending on the size of the cylinders.

To hook the loader into the Super C's hydraulic system, you need one of two things:

1. A hydraulic bypass block. I believe it's the same as what's used on a Super A.
2. The optional factory two-way remote valve.

If you already have a two-way hydraulic remote installed on the tractor, you're 90% of the way there.

Hooking up the lift from there is quite simple, really:
1. Run a hose from the top port of each lift cylinder to a convenient point where they can be connected together with a T fitting. This is usually back down the cylinder to the lower pivot, then along the loader's frame to the tractor.
2. Repeat step 1 for the two lower ports.
3. Run a single hose from each T to one of the two "work" ports coming from the two-way remote valve. 4. If your loader has a dump bucket, repeat steps 1-3 for the dump bucket cylinder(s), and connect the hoses to a second two-way hydraulic outlet.

Your work ports may already be run to the rear of the tractor, and end in "Pioneer" couplers. Just use mating couplers on the hoses coming from the loader. This will allow "quick and easy" removal of the loader from the tractor, or at least access to the hydraulic remote for other tasks.

I have replaced the external hydraulic lines on the tractor with the ones that came with the lift. It consist of a supply line to the pump and a high pressure line which is connected to the control valve assembly. There does not seem to be a return feed to the tractors cylinder, that line is capped comming out of the cylinder housing. The control valve has the line coming into it from the tractors pump as I've already described. Directly above that line on the control valve housing is a line that connects to the lift's resevoir. The resevoir has one additional line out, which currently is not connected to anything. The control valve has two operating valves. The first valve has only one port which has a hose which supplies fluid to the "T" which has a hose on each end to supply fluid to the cylinders. The second operating valve has an upper and lower port. The uper port has a line comming off of it with a six inch piece of hose on the end and two hose clamps. I can't figure out what this is or what the hose should be connected to. The lower port has an elbow out and appears to be a quick disconnect for a coupler or and perhaps a pressure relief valve, I really don't know. Nothing on the second valve in currently connected to anything on the tractor or the lift.

Here are my main questions

1. Should there be some type of loop made back to the tractor's cylinder housing so that the touch control will function. If so, which hose should complete that run? I assume this must somehow be the function of the second valve on the valve controll unit.

2. Does the lifts resevoir somehow have to tie back into the tractor's resevoir? Seems like it would have to to somehow return fluid to the tractor

Make sure the valves are "open center" that is, you can blow air through them easily with the control levers centered.

The hydraulics should make one complete loop:

1. Pressure OUT from the pump goes to the IN port on the first operating valve.
2. Connect OUT from the first operating valve to the IN on the second operating valve.
3. Connect OUT from the second operating valve to the pressure IN port on the Touch Control.
4. Connect the reservoir OUT port on the Touch Control to the top of the large external reservoir.
5. Connect the bottom of the external reservoir to the suction side of the hydraulic pump.
6. Connect the loader up like I described in my last response to the first remote.

If there is a separate relief valve, you need to put that in the line between the pump and the valves, then run the third line from that back to the top of the external reservoir.

First hydraulic remote is to lift and lower the loader. The second remote is a utility remote for whatever you want/need, including a hydraulic dump on the bucket. Touch Control is going to work, too.

Also, when you direct me to connect to the pressure in on the touch controll, is that done by removing the plug on the line housing and connecting there. I assume I need to leave the lines on the tractor that connect the tractor"s resevoir to the pump, correct?

Now as I understood your previous reply, you had some rig that replaced the "hard" lines running from the hydraulic pump to the touch control... Now it seems like you do not have that?

So, how are you getting pressure from the hydraulic pump? Do you have a bypass block bolted in between the hard lines and the Touch Control?

My process stays basically the same, only the points for the connections will be different. The goal here is to run pressure from the pump, through the control valves, through the Touch Control, back to the external reservoir, and into the suction side of the pump.

The challenge is in WHERE to make these connections. Unfortunately, this is something I'd have to see in person to decipher, unless you can post some pictures...