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Thank you all for the advice!

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Steven@AZ

02-15-2006 16:06:23




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I appreciate all the comments, experience, and advice given by all. My wife and I have talked with friends and each other. All agree that when the time is right we will know and it will happen. The Lord's plan just hasn't been made 100% clear to us yet. :o)

I can understand all of the positions that were presented, everyone has a different point of view and is free to express it.

I don't think we will make any major changes to our current standard of living (in excess by some people's standards), but will work out a budget for a child and attempt to put that much aside to see just how it would work out. That way we will get an idea of how much change will be coming when the big day arrives!

Thank you again, I can always count on Farmallers for showing me both sides of the fence!

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Randy-IA

02-17-2006 19:10:27




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
I don't know if you re-read these older posts or not but I don't get on here during the week . I am going to be 49 next month . I decided at an early age ( as a teen ) that I didn't want children . I was a very irresponsible young adult that went down the wrong path . I didn't settle down till I was in my early thirty's . I had a gal I dated for close to two years when I was 26 . She had two kids from a previous marriage ( 8 and 5 ) . One day after about the 18th month with them I ventured into a small punishment for the older one ( sent him to his room ) . I was sitting them till mom got home . When asked why he was in his room I told her what he had done and she blew her top ! I was the bad guy ! I didn't know how to be a parent because I didn't have kids ! It was down hill from there . I asked her if she knew how to be parent before her first one arrived . BBBBuuuttt , BBuuuttt ?!?! OK - So I left her . And never had kids . I still think I made the right choice . I've been married now for almost 20 years to a woman I met on one of my foray's to work in a different state ( CO ) . And I'm still not financially stable enough to AFFORD children . But I can AFFORD a bunch of other things I DON'T need . Don't get torqued right now , I'm not insinuating anything . I can't say from experience if they are as life changing as everyone say's they are . A guy I work with just had his first baby two weeks ago . He's 38 . He makes an estimated combined income of less than 50K . Is that enough to start a family ? I don't know but he's ready to find out ! My mom died at an early age and my dad had to raise 4 kids on one income . There was no daycare in my life but I do remember going for a short period of time to a pre-school . I'm the third , each of us came around four years apart . So all that can be said is ( and this might be a little personal ) if your wife is taking a contriceptive then maybe she should stop and see IF she get's pregnent . If she does then it was meant to be > if not , then ?? I'm hoping this makes a little bit of sense and I hope you don't take any offense as none is intended . By the way , even though I think I made the right choice I regret the decision . Who knows what path I'd be on if the choice had been different . Like everyone agrees on - you never get any younger . Take care ...Randy

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Steven@AZ

02-17-2006 19:53:10




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Randy-IA, 02-17-2006 19:10:27  
I hear what you are saying. Thanks for sharing!



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Muley

02-16-2006 07:06:40




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
Fierce Sparrow wrote "The Lord truly blesses those who can have kids." Interesting. What about folks who can't have kids? Cursed? Punished? People and animals have been producing offspring for millions of years. If it is a miracle, it is a quite common one requiring little or no faith and sometimes a few beers.



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JT

02-16-2006 06:57:01




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
Steve, I can appreciate the being financially solid before making the decsion on kids, but if that is what you are waiting for, you more than likely will not ever feel finacially secure enough to have kids. I went through that difficulty 22 years ago, kept telling the wife(ex now) we cannot afford kids, but we made do, it was probably the hardest thing I ever done, do I regret it, NO, my kids and now grandkids are everything to me. I been broke most of my life, had to drive $500.00 cars, keep working on them to keep 'em on the road and safe and legal. I worked a full time job, then worked in the garage in the evenings to make a little extra, I guess that is the American way. Being broke and raising kids kinda keeps you humble, it teahces you what life is all about. The time will get there when your wife will tell you, I am pregnant, then all the worries will go out the door, that will be the most fantastic feeling you will ever have, there is NO way to describe that feeling. You know the thing that amkes me mad about things is, when I was young trying to raise kids, had NO money, I paid full price for everything, now my kids are all raised and gone except one, am getting in a fincially secure position, now evey one wants to offer me a senior discount. I do not need a senior discount now, I needed it when I had 5 kids needing fed and clothed. Steve, do not fret this kind of thing, when the time comes, the time will be here, you will have kids, you will be happy, maybe broke, but you will be happy. Money can never buy happiness, the joy of kids will outweight any fincial worries.

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Steven@AZ

02-16-2006 14:15:55




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to JT, 02-16-2006 06:57:01  
I agree, there should be a parent's discount along with discounts for the seniors. The tax credit doesn't come near to off setting the cost of raising a family.



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Jon in MN

02-16-2006 05:44:19




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
All that will matter when the big day comes, is that mom and baby are healthy. You will forget about everything else.
Had my first at 29, can't imagine life without them.



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Dandy Don

02-15-2006 20:18:36




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
Steven, I didn't send a note last night 'cause you were really getting it from both barrels. I knew you was young but didn't know your age. Shucks man at 25 you're about to get in a hurry.
You're going about it right in MHO. I'm 66 and my sons are 40 and 28. Each has a daughter 13 and 3.
All of them are the lights of my life and I LOVE to hear them say Paw Paw. You'll be okay.Hang in there son. My best to you. Don

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John T

02-15-2006 18:56:48




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
Your sure welcome, good luck.....

John T



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Fierce Sparrow

02-15-2006 18:16:54




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
I have 7 kids. 5 girls and 2 boys. The 2 boys were last. We quit at 6 when the 1st son was born, but God knew better and sent son # 2. Good thing. With 5 older sisters, one would have never made it alone. The 1st boy looks a lot like one uncle of mine who I just can't stand to be around. But that's the beauty of genetics, my son didn't inherit his personality, only the looks. Have kids! Anything and everything will happen. Some people refer to raising kids as an arduous journey. I call it a hell of a ride. Go to a retirement home and look at the people who didn't have kids and wanted to be alone. They're still alone. The Lord truly blesses those who can have kids

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El Toro

02-15-2006 18:43:25




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Fierce Sparrow, 02-15-2006 18:16:54  
My Grandmother had 13 kids and my Granddad raised
Burley. One of those 13 is still living. Hal



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Tim Shaw

02-15-2006 16:55:39




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
Good plan. I was 28 when I got married and 33 when my first son was born. Heck, you're only 25 and have plenty of time to get everything in order before the kiddos show up.

God Bless, TS



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Nebraska Cowman

02-15-2006 16:46:52




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 Re: Thank you all for the advice! in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-15-2006 16:06:23  
Best wishes with your decision Steve. The untangable benifits of a child greatly outweigh any monetary consideration.



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