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International Cub DOA...help needed..

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Jesse

03-14-2006 15:42:52




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Here is the problem..The other day I started up my Cub, which had been running fine. It has always started on the first turn of the key. 2 days ago, I went to plow with it, it began to sound as if it was gasping for air, and began to run rough. It was low on gas, so I assumed that was the problem. Today I went started it and it ran rough and died. I wasnt sure what happened as it has gas. I tried to turn the key and it sounds as it it isnt getting fire. Before it died, it looked as if the smoke was black. Now I can crank it till I am blue and the face and it acts as if there is no fire. I changed the spark plugs and still nothing. Any suggestions? Points, condenser? Just need some troubleshooting tips.

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souNdguy

03-15-2006 07:08:09




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 Re: International Cub DOA...help needed.. in reply to Jesse, 03-14-2006 15:42:52  
i agree with Old and Nat... ya really got to be able to do some basic troubleshooting to keep these 40-50-60 year old gas engines goin.

Check spark first.. if spark is bad/none.. run a jumper wire fromthe battery bypassing ignition switch to coil,, then check again.. still none? take a piece of 800 or 1000 finishing sand paper and pull it thru the closed points once on eace side of the contact ( this is not great for the points.. at best you replace them or use a real ignition hone.. but for checking.. this will get you going.. ).. if this helps.. your points are needing replacing.

If you do have spark.. look at the carb.. black smoke means rich.. that is either a plugged air intake.. a flooding carb.. or weak spark..

Soundguy

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Nat 2

03-15-2006 06:31:42




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 Re: International Cub DOA...help needed.. in reply to Jesse, 03-14-2006 15:42:52  
I really hate to sound like a crumudgeon, but I just have to comment: If you don't even know enough about how a simple 4-stroke gasoline engine works to do a simple spark check, you really shouldn't be behind the wheel of that tractor. Let's get that problem resolved right now so you can get your tractor driver license back:

If it seems like it doesn't have fire, then check for fire: Pull a spark plug, lay it against the block, and crank the engine over. See a spark? You have fire, so that's not the problem. No spark? Then your problem is somewhere in the ignition.

Air, fuel, and fire, all at the right time. That's how a gasoline engine works. If your engine don't run, then it's got to be one of those, so start checking. Air is generally not the problem unless your engine is badly worn to the point where it can't suck enough air, or the cam is broken and not letting air in. Normally problems like this are fuel or fire.

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Janicholson

03-15-2006 07:04:16




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 Re: International Cub DOA...help needed.. in reply to Nat 2, 03-15-2006 06:31:42  
Nat2 If you hate it, don't do it. Anyone who takes the time to inquire about operation, tuning, or repair is (in my book) on the right track. Bashing helps no one. Just my opinion, JimN



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El Toro

03-14-2006 15:57:28




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 Re: International Cub DOA...help needed.. in reply to Jesse, 03-14-2006 15:42:52  
Your carburetor float may be the problem if it isn't shutting off the gas and causing a flooding condition. To check for fire pull the coil wire from the cap and hold within 1/8" of a good ground while someone cranks the engine with the ignition switch on. Should have a good hot blue spark. If you have good fire here reconnect coil wire and pull off a plug wire and try the same thing here. No fire here could be points,
condenser, rotor or cap. When you have that black smoke is an indication of over fueling, but could be weak fire too. Coil may be weak. Hal

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old

03-14-2006 18:17:57




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 Re: International Cub DOA...help needed.. in reply to El Toro, 03-14-2006 15:57:28  
Hal, sorry I have to correct you on one thing. If the points are bad you will not have spark any place not just at the plug wires. Now if there no spark at the plug wires its a bad cap or rotor not the point. Just had to say something LOL



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