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DJL

03-17-2006 19:45:04




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Sorry in advance for the non-tractor related question, but you folks always have great input and are always a big help. I work in the seed industry and live in northern Ilinois. I get back to the family farm every chance I can in SE Ia. Dad's retired and the entire farm is in CRP. I love to deer and pheasant hunt back on the farm. Everytime I go back there, in the evening hours you can hear a lot of coyotes howeling/yipping etc. I know there's quite a few around in the creek bottom/wooded areas. I bought a new Remington model 700 in 30.06 and sited in a new Leopold 3-9X 40 scope. I'd like to take out a few of these coyotes, as I think they're really hurting our pheasant population. I've used a squealing rabbit mouth call and just bought a cheaper electronic call too. Never have much luck calling these things in. Does anyone have any advice on getting these coyotes called up withing a couple hundred yards? When's the best time of day to call them? Early morning/evening? Any other advice?
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DJL

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Ron in Nebr

03-18-2006 12:48:40




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
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If your really want to get some coyotes, put your gun away. Here's by far the BEST way to really put a dent in their population, and loads of fun to boot. Yup, those are greyhounds, some crossed with Irish or Russion Wolfhounds. Not mine(borrowed this pic from Nitro's bulletin board), but I have three black and white dogs that'll be ready next year....And to keep this kinda on topic- I'm looking at an old IH Scout to haul 'em with! ;)

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Kendog

03-18-2006 11:05:32




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
Hi Dave- Yipping and howling are pre-hunt, assemble-the-team, lace-up-the-spikes vocaliziations. It also reinforces pecking order and social structure within the pack, and defines a territory. Depending on the local coyote population, they will occupy 1 sq. mile, or an average 2x7 mile oval territory that we see in the East.

You are likely hearing an alpha male, alpha female, and a subordinate female, as three coyotes can make a ton of noise, and certainly ding a population of small game during spring when raising and feeding pups. But coyotes are super-efficient hunters and for the most part, are mousers and scavengers. The story of finding a den with seven fawn skulls is mostly tale.

Position yourself where they can NOT get down wind of you, or you'll never see them, and after calling, sneak out so that they are not associating those sounds with you. Get to within 1/4 mile or closer of their position, so you are invading their space. You say you think they are into your pheasants so first try consistant cock-bird clucks, one every three or four minutes for 20 minutes, like pheasants often do in the morning, and watch the downwind. Rabbit squeals; muffle the call and lay into it hard for an emotion horrifying 30 seconds, wait 4 minutes and go again softer, and call no more, just sit & wait for 20 minutes.

If you can get in while they are howling, get into position and howl 2 times at them, with a long drawn out howl. If one answers you, mimick every sound he makes, if no answers at all or they go quiet, sit tight, as the male will come seek out the intruder (that would be you).

Very first light and very last light are favorable. Forget night hunting because positive ID is priority one. Keep us posted, be safe.

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Dave BN

03-18-2006 09:08:04




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
I too have Coyote problems. Never see them, and hear them only at night! I know there hurting the game in the area as I see evidence of it. I've thought of buying rabbits or chickens to stake out in the field to attract them but have not tried it yet. Good luck. Dave.



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Ron in Nebr

03-18-2006 12:35:54




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to Dave BN, 03-18-2006 09:08:04  
You might want to either check with your local game warden, or else make sure you're a long ways away from him before you use any live bait to attact a coyote. Usually illegal in most parts.



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sgtbull

03-18-2006 05:44:55




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
I've tried mouth calls and never had a lot of luck. I purchased one of the remote calls from sportsmans guide, about $27, and it was worth about 1% of what I paid for it... it was way too quiet. The best thing about them, is that if you are using a cassette call w/o a remote, you can turn off the player and start using the remote call after a few minutes...if they're coming to you, they'll be on the way pretty quick. That way, the dog won't be eyeballing you along w/ your boom box while you're trying to get a bead on the bugger. They'll be looking right at the source of the sound. Figure that you generally should be downwind of your quarry, and those quiet little calls just don't seem to carry very far. (granted, they can hear way better than me, but still....) I used a wounded rabbit cassette in a small portable boom box, and have had coyotes actually come at me at a run....picked one off just a few days ago using just that...where I live, they are about like stray cats.... they're everywhere.....

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Dellbertt

03-17-2006 20:15:41




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
DJL, Just one thought. I have a large pack of coyotes on and around my farm. Since they arrived about 5-8 years ago the turkeys and pheasants population has increased dramatically.

Coyotes are beneficial to farms because they eat woodchucks, rabbits, mice, ground chipmunks, etc. which which would be eating crops and buildings.

Its just my opinion but I wouldn"t be too quick to blast away just to blast away.

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DJL

03-17-2006 20:03:53




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
Thanks IAGary



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IaGary

03-17-2006 20:01:24




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to DJL, 03-17-2006 19:45:04  
DJL If you go to Tractor Talk forum and do a search for "coyotes" you can read the discussions we had earlier in the year.



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brandonf

03-17-2006 20:36:08




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to IaGary, 03-17-2006 20:01:24  
one word


coyotegods....com

lol these boys can show you how its done



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IaGary

03-17-2006 20:47:44




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 Re: Coyotes - Sorry in advance in reply to brandonf, 03-17-2006 20:36:08  
Yeah pretty good web site I've spent hours reading there.



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