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Flat rear tire on Farmall A

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Larry Ed

03-23-2006 07:24:06




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I'm new to tractors and my 1944 Farmall A has a flat. I know I have to soak with penetrating oil for several days before starting, but what is the method. Do I take the weight off first? Is there a trick to this? Of course it's heavy, but how heavy and how is the best way to handle it. I did a search, but did not find an exact answer. I did see where it’s best to use a factory wrench for the bolts, is this true? I love old tractors and I am learning more every day thanks to the help I get from you guys. Thanks, Larry.

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countryboy6

03-23-2006 16:40:48




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 07:24:06  
i would take it off the tractor at the rim. take the stem off the tube. lay it on the gound use a slidehammer to break it loose (if that doesn"t work, get a 4x6 about 2 feet long and drive truck or tractor on it to break it.) use tire irons to pull the tire off one side. pull the tube out. stand it up. put a bar on one side and beat it off with sledge hammer. put it on with bfh



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Dellbertt

03-23-2006 10:26:50




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 07:24:06  
My tire guy always repairs with rim on tractor.
He has an air driven bead breaker but only uses it when he has to.
On my 300U he just jacked it up and whacked it at the bead with a maul and the bead popped right loose.
Then worked the tire off with a couple (well worn)spoons, did the repair and stuck it back on the same way.
He was finished within 20 minutes and wasnt here more than 30 minutes.

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P Backus

03-23-2006 08:56:21




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 07:24:06  
Why not do like the pros and take the tire off while it"s on the tractor? If you don"t intend to do it yourself, the tire guys will come out to your place to fix it. If you want to take it somewhere, of course then you"ll have to take it off. If you do it yourself, you"ll have to have a slide hammer bead breaker or other suitable bead breaker to get the bead off of the rim. Sometimes that can be tons-o-fun.
Paul

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old

03-23-2006 08:29:27




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 07:24:06  
On your A there should be 2 ways to remove the wheel/rim. One is to take is loose at the axle the the other is to take it loose at the rim. Should have 4 or 6 bolts holding on the rim part. Air it up then use a jack to get it off the ground just a little remove the tire/rim and either fix it your self or take it in to town. Its easer to tkae it off at the rim because the center weights around 300LBS. Sorry you will not get lucky and have a tubeless tire on it unless some one has spent a lot of money on a custom rim

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souNdguy

03-23-2006 07:39:15




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 07:24:06  
I'll assume you have tried to air it already.

now if it is tubeless.. you can wet the tire down a,d then try to find the puncture, and then patch with a plug. If it is tube style, then you will ahve to break the tire down.

I imagine you have 2 choices.. either take the rim off and leave the center on the hub.. or take the whole assemby rim and center off. ( I guess some wheels are 1 piece.. not sure about yours.. ).

Once you have it off, you will need a couple tire irons.. I like spoons.. a short and a long one, perhaps one with a step or a 'titt' on the sfaft to help you work the casing off the rim.

While you could patch the tube.. I'd just get a new one. If the puncture hole in the casing is rough.. try to trim it up, and put a farm patch on the inside of the casing.. or cut up your old tube to make a boot for the damaged area. If the rim is rusty, sand / wire wheel / sand blast the rim inside, then paint with a good epoxy mental paint.. or rusty metal paint... allow you fully cure. Use only vegi based soap for lube when you reinstall the tube... and be carefull not to pinch it. A valve stem fishing tool will also be usefull. Alternatelyy, you can take this down to your local tire place and let them do it.. most places don't charge much to break down and re bead a tire..

Soundguy

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FatRedneck

03-23-2006 07:38:31




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 07:24:06  
you certainly shouldn't have to take the weight off to fix the tire, if your only putting a tube in it you can do that with the tire and all on the tractor. you have to jack under the axle, then use tire irons to pull the outer sidewall of the tire off the rim then replace the tube making sure not to pinch it while replacing the tube or it'll be flat again in a jiffy. once you get the tube in the tire just pop the tire back on the rim and air it up. hint: plenty of hot soapy water is a godsend when doing this project.good luck

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Hugh MacKay

03-23-2006 22:53:41




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to FatRedneck, 03-23-2006 07:38:31  
Redneck: Glad to see you back quickly. Don't mind me, I was just trying to save your hide, rather than put you down. You carry on, you have good input to offer.



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Larry Ed

03-23-2006 16:37:06




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to FatRedneck, 03-23-2006 07:38:31  
Thanks, everyone, like I said I am learning a lot from you guys. I see now that I can take the rim off and leave the weight on the axle. I really need a new tire, so I'll take the rim to town and have them take off the old tire and put on a new one. This is a great forum. I sure appreciate the help. Larry



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Dve BN

03-23-2006 17:09:50




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 Re: Flat rear tire on Farmall A in reply to Larry Ed, 03-23-2006 16:37:06  
I'm not rich but I have my local tire shop come out and do my work. It'll be cheaper in the long run if you do that to. You'll break all 4 bolts that hold the rim to the wheel if they haven't been off recently. 4 new grade 8 square head bolts like the origionals are $100 dollars with nets and washers. You run the risk of ruining the rim which will cost more than $100. Add in the aggrivation and paying to have it done is way cheaper. Dave.

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