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Wiring for F-20 Starter

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F-Dean

03-27-2006 05:18:41




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I am putting a starter on a F-20. What is the best way? (1)Push button starter on steering column like early H & M or (2) solenoid and button like later tractors? Any ideas on a "Dash" on a F-20? Pictures of a set-up would be appreciated.




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Paul G. in Mn

04-02-2006 09:15:23




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to F-Dean, 03-27-2006 05:18:41  
The way I did it on my 1939 F-20 was I put a hole in the bracket that comes off the steering post for the throtle. It is a nice flat plate. I used an M style puch button. I mounted a 13 volt battery on top the frame rail just ahead of the clutch pedel. I am not runing a generator so thats the reason I went 12 volt. starts right up and starts for meany times before I even have to think about charging the battery. It made for a nice clean install too. I can take some pictures sometime if you would like to see. Paul

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Farmallgray

03-27-2006 17:46:27




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to F-Dean, 03-27-2006 05:18:41  
If you want it to be "period correct" set it up similar to an early H or M. AFIK Heisler only supplied the starter, bellhousing and ring gear.
The rest was up to the installer. It would make sense that a lot of them were installed by IH dealers after the H and M were introduced. So it would have been easy to use H and M parts. The F-12s with factory starters used a lot of parts similar to the H and M.

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Nebraska Cowman

03-27-2006 07:38:19




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to F-Dean, 03-27-2006 05:18:41  
consider using solenoid and push button run through a key switch for safety. Some kid is goona run over somebody at a show cuz he pushed on a starter switch



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John T

03-27-2006 08:36:48




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-27-2006 07:38:19  
Darn good SAFETY consideration Cowman. Those tractors are often parked in gear and its the nature of a kid to push any buttons or pull any levers and if a solenoid push button were depressed UNPROTECTED by a key or other type safety switch/device, it could be a disaster. If he wanted to get fancy and even though it may not be anywhere near Original, I guess he could use a key operated auto or even lawn mower type switch with the spring START position, but thats not something I would want on an old original tractor.

John T

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Nebraska Cowman

03-27-2006 08:45:27




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to John T, 03-27-2006 08:36:48  
at our club show it is highly recomended that if tractor does not have a removable key, to unhook the battery.



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John T

03-27-2006 09:50:01




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-27-2006 08:45:27  
Cowman, A few years back I was asked to put on my attorneys hat to present a Seminar at a John Deere Two Cylinder Expo in Iowa concerning "Legal Liability Concerns for Tractor Clubs and Tractor Shows" The exact type things you mentioned are good practices and procedures and should be duly noted (PLUS PRACTICED) in the records and minutes of tractor club meetings. We sure dont want to see anyone, especially a child, hurt at any events. Frankly, shows that have that "blindfold race" where the area isnt well roped off or protected, scare the daylights out of me personally.

Take care n keep safe yall

John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Bob M

03-27-2006 06:15:00




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to F-Dean, 03-27-2006 05:18:41  
I don't know how "original" F20 electric start wiring was arranged. However from a purely performance standpoint a solenoid mounted directly on the starter and controlled by a remote pushbutton is preferred. Alternatively a remote-actuated mechanical switch mounted on directly the starter (ala M series Farmalls) is good.

Reason: These minimize the length of high-current battery cable runs and thus minimizes voltage drop to the starter.

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F-Dean

03-27-2006 07:40:19




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 Re: Wiring for F-20 Starter in reply to Bob M, 03-27-2006 06:15:00  
Thanks for the advice, Bob. I use your wiring diagrams often. There were no "Original" starters on F-20s, just an after market kit that was very popular.



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