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Farmall M stuck in Road Gear

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Hoosier Scott

05-24-2006 04:45:59




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After putting the tractor in neutral so i could open the gate to the field. I put the tractor in 3rd and let out on the clutch and the engine bogged down but the tractor wouldn't move. I also tried reverse, 1st and 2nd gear with the same out come, i couldn't get to 4th or 5th gear but when i put the tractor back into neutral this was 5th gear and 5th is the only gear i have and its where neutral was. Any ideas? Thanks

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captaink

05-24-2006 05:34:41




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to Hoosier Scott, 05-24-2006 04:45:59  
Just adding that if you happen to take the cover off the transmission, pull the rails down and check out the springs and balls. If they break, they don’t put enough tension on the balls and this makes it easier for a rail to keep moving right through neutral or move with the one adjacent to it (like when you shifted to 3rd the 5th rail moved along with it as I suspect) causing your problem. Common problem on the letter serried up to the 60 series.

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Hoosier Scott

05-24-2006 07:21:44




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to captaink, 05-24-2006 05:34:41  
the actual shifter feels normal when im tring to change gears. Do you think i have a broken spring instead of a worn shifter?



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captaink

05-24-2006 07:54:33




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to Hoosier Scott, 05-24-2006 07:21:44  
My guess is that the shifter is worn and that building it up or replacing it will help a lot, but I have seen both contribute to the issue.



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Hoosier Scott

05-24-2006 09:22:50




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to captaink, 05-24-2006 07:54:33  
Thanks for the info, i'll dig into it tonight.



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Hoosier Scott

05-24-2006 09:25:45




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to Hoosier Scott, 05-24-2006 09:22:50  
One more question. When i take the shifter off and look down in the tran. What do i look for to aligh stuff back for neutral?



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captaink

05-24-2006 10:11:24




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to Hoosier Scott, 05-24-2006 09:25:45  
Before you take the shifter out, try to move it side to side while it is in gear. If it moves more than oh, a quarter inch or so then it is worn narrow. After that try front to back, again if it moves more than a quarter inch it is worn. When I get done building mine up they actually drag slightly when I try to move them in any direction.

What you will see when you get the shifter out are three wide rails 3/8 inch or so wide divided by two thin plates about 1/16 inch thick. There are about 5/8 inch long notches in the rails and the dividers. When all the notches on the dividers and rails line up the transmission is in neutral. What you will find is a pattern where on the left the slot (when viewed facing towards the front of the tractor) will be ahead (towards front of tractor) of the notches in the dividers and the other rails. You need to move this back so that it lines up with the rest. If you can have someone depress the clutch that will help it move easier.

The most classic symptom of a broken spring is if the shifter moves with less effort on one or more rails when compared to others, or you shift out of one gear (like 4th) and you end up in the gear that is opposite it (in this case 5th) instead of neutral. If you have either of these then the spring on that shift rail is definitely suspect.

Personally, I’d look close at the end of the shifter and see how much it is worn. Ideally it should be a rectangle with square corners. If the corners are rounded much it makes it easier for the lever to go sideways before the shift is completed. Building it up might cure the problem and this is the easy inexpensive fix to try first. Pulling the cover isn’t bad but costly due to the price of a new gasket.

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dej(JED)

05-24-2006 05:20:37




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to Hoosier Scott, 05-24-2006 04:45:59  
That is a common problem on H's & M's. Take the pin out holding the stick shifter in place. Using a flahslight and a long screwdriver, look into the trany and realign the rails to neutral.
The tip of the shiter is probably worn off some.
It is slipping out of the rail slot letting the rail stay in the gear it was in. You need to replace the shifter or build up the end a little.



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turbos10

05-24-2006 05:31:11




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 Re: Farmall M stuck in Road Gear in reply to dej(JED), 05-24-2006 05:20:37  
That is a bummer when the tip of the shiter wears out :) .....LOL!

Chris



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