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H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, still

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LA in Wi.

06-02-2006 06:25:40




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I've put in new bearings and bushing in front spindle of my 1950 H, new knuckle on steering shaft, replaced worm gear and sector gear; worm and sector still have small amount of "play". How do you eliminate that "play" to stop remaining shake in 5th gear? Tried low air in 1 tire, little help. Too many $$$ spent but it's old family tractor and all prettied up and worth it to me for joy riding.




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IA Roy

06-03-2006 22:43:41




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 Re: H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, st in reply to LA in Wi., 06-02-2006 06:25:40  
Doest there happen to be any provision for thrust washers to take out end play on worm shaft? Don't have any idea on this application, but if there is any endplay, that would also cause the symptoms.



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Janicholson

06-02-2006 18:27:59




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 Re: H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, st in reply to LA in Wi., 06-02-2006 06:25:40  
Tire ballance will also cause tremendous wobble in a narrow front at 20. The grief will be finding a person to ballance it, the rims are not for the machines in common use, A good tire shop can do it. A satisfactory way is to drive the tractor up on a block (raising one tire clear of the ground) and seeing if you can find a heavy side by direct rotation, if so pound on weights till it is is somewhat better ballance. Then the other side.
JimN

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brainerd dave

06-02-2006 10:28:59




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 Re: H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, st in reply to LA in Wi., 06-02-2006 06:25:40  
With the hood off, where's the wiggle? Is it possible the wheel bearings are worn?



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LA in Wi.

06-03-2006 07:31:06




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 Re: H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, st in reply to brainerd dave, 06-02-2006 10:28:59  
The "wiggle" is between the worm gear and the sector gear. With hood off, and sector gear cover off, me standing by the front, I can turn the steering shaft back and forth ever so slightly without affecting the sector gear. It's as though the worm gear is worn, but it's new, as is the sector gear. Sitting on the seat, the steering wheel moves about 1". I know this doesn't sound like much wiggle, but it allows the shake to get going. Everything else is new; wheel bearings are tight, when off the ground the tires and wheels turn without any wobble. It's as though I need an "oversize" worm gear if such a thing existed. I've thought about the wheel balancing...wish I had one of those tire-spinner balancers used years ago.

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Wicksfield

06-02-2006 06:45:43




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 Re: H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, st in reply to LA in Wi., 06-02-2006 06:25:40  
I know you said replaced bushing. Did you replace the upper and lower bushings located in the upper bolster for the steering shaft? Replacing these took care of the wobble on my M.



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LA in Wi.

06-05-2006 08:01:11




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 Re: H steering; new worm gear, new sector gear, st in reply to Wicksfield, 06-02-2006 06:45:43  
Thanks to all of you for trying to help. Mr. Wickfield's question is good....I asked my tractor mechanic (an old Farmall mechanic) a month ago if he replaced the pivot shaft bushings and he said "Yes". But I'm now thinking that if a top bushing is worn, then the sector gear/shaft might be able to "pull away" from the worm gear to make the play that I'm finding.

How do you replace that top bushing? Does this shaft have to come out the bottom again? If so, how do you get the bushing off the shaft?

Once this problem is cured, I will have a "perfect" tractor to play with....it sure is fun for an old codger to tool down the road on a family heirloom.

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