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Soldner

07-27-2006 06:07:46




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My friend's Super M just recently got stuck.. He drove it about 2 months ago, and parked it outside, and he went to start it the other day, and it's tight.. Any suggestions to break it free?? Thanks.




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old

07-27-2006 08:55:04




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 Re: Stuck Super M in reply to Soldner, 07-27-2006 06:07:46  
I'd first check the starter as John said very common problem with Farmalls. All it takes is a weak battery and it will jam and lock up the engine. I f its not the starter whci it probably is they pull the plugs and blow out any water etc in the cylinders and pour in some tranny fluid in each one and let it sit a day or 2. The put on a good batterry and do fast quick hits of the starter botton. The starter will put out more torque then you can tring to spin a wheel by hand. Ive had very good luck unlocking engine this way.

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El Toro

07-27-2006 08:37:23




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 Re: Stuck Super M in reply to Soldner, 07-27-2006 06:07:46  
If everything else fails pull the head and pour some kerosene into the cylinders and set them on fire. Remove anything flammable and away from any building. Keep a good fire extinguisher handy too. The heat will free them and you won't need to pound on the rods to push out the pistons. Any soaking I would use transmission fluid. It freed an A tha had been stuck for years. I had to install a new sleeve kit. Hal

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Soldner

07-27-2006 07:30:00




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 Re: Stuck Super M in reply to Soldner, 07-27-2006 06:07:46  
Thanks guys. I'll give it a try.. I'm not a big fan of pulling and tryin to break it loose. (seen a connecting rod come through the block that way once. (not me, long before i was born, but the tractor sits in the weeds like that!) Thanks again.



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lov-em-all ,Ks

07-27-2006 06:46:06




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 Re: Stuck Super M in reply to Soldner, 07-27-2006 06:07:46  
If it ever rains where you live and the exaust is not completely sealed you may have H2O in the cylinders. I'd pull the pluggs, put it in 5th gear and try rocking it by hand. Watch the fan blade and see if it moves. A shot of keroseen or other lube into the plug holes wouldn't hurt. If it moves or not, I'd drain some of the oil to see if it has water in it. Good luck



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john d

07-27-2006 06:39:14




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 Re: Stuck Super M in reply to Soldner, 07-27-2006 06:07:46  
There are various ways to break one free - some will do just that - BREAK it free. PATIENCE is the key to un-sticking that tractor without causing even more damage than it already has.

First check some possibilities. Is the starter stuck? Old Farmalls will sometimes have the starter bendix jam, and the engine will not turn, even if you try to force it. Get a 3/4" wrench and loosen the two bolts holding the starter. Then re-try it.

Second, did this thing set out in the rain and accumulate a lot of water down the exhaust stack? If so, it may be seriously stuck. Pull the spark plugs and see if there is water on them. Also try turning the engine with the spark plugs out.

If there's no progress by this point, it's time to sqirt a LOT of penetrating oil into the cylinders through the spark plug holes, and jack up one rear tire. With one rear tire off the ground, brake for that wheel released, and the tractor blocked so it can't roll, put it in 5th gear and rock that tire forward and backward while watching the fan on the engine. You may be able to loosen it up. Once you see the fan move both directions, you're on your way!

If you have no luck with this procedure, tie a heavy weight (wheel weight works well) on the front side of the tire and let the thing set all night. When you come back in the morning it may have moved due to the steady pressure. If no luck, try it the other direction.

If none of this works, you'll likely have to pull it apart. Some folks will recommend simply hitching it behind another tractor and dragging it until something moves. That method might break it free, or it may simply break it.

Taking the head off of it will let you see what's going on in the cylinders. If it has swallowed a lot of rain water, you'll find your problem that way. It's always possible that it's stuck in the lower part of the crankcase, but unless it was run very low on oil, that's not likely.

Good luck!

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