Would Like Your Opinion

Here's the deal.

I've got 56 acres of ground, of which 10 acres is just plan old-fashioned virgin buffalo sod that has been pastured since 1935 and the remainder is in 5 or 6 year old alfalfa. Heck, maybe it’s 10 years old, I dunno.

I can tell the alfalfa was just planted to field run stuff and all of this soil is heavy loam to clay. This 56 acres needs to be pulled into a wheat ready seedbed by next year; September of '07.

I've been watching a neighbor and he just tills this type of stuff with a big heavy John Deere disc. Seems to work for him.

I don't have that luxury. I've got an IH plow and I've got a IH 370 disc.

Do you suppose if I started after the frost this year with that disc and popped it a time or two before winter, that I could get it worked deep enough to grow wheat next fall?

Or, maybe even if the discing doesn't work all that well, I could still have the option to hit it with the plow in the spring and wouldn't have the "sod fight" to contend with?

I've got the rest of the place shaped up pretty darned good, but for some reason, tying into that last patch with the plow this fall is puttin' me off a little.

Thanks for you thoughts,

Allan

Gordo

I know later we would break up alfalfa. I don't remember how we did that, probably also with a plow. We had bigger tractors, an 806 and 1066 so it wasn't as big as issue.

I think I would try Round-Up and try to no till. I assume that your soil is dryland and not irrigated. CNKS got it right in saying get with your extension agent.

Sounds like you really want to use the plow though. Not much wheat grown in NE KS anymore.

Allan;

Go ahead and plow the ground just before it freezes up. Leave it like that untill you are ready to get the ground ready to plant wheat.

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steveormary

Still just don't know if I can buy that arguement.

Was told by the local dish guys that the trees were causin' my touble, then they sent me a bill for $50 for aligning the dish. Okay, cut down two great big nice trees. Didn't do a bit of good.

In despiration, I ordered another receiver box from Dish. Cured all my ills and the picture is way better too.

Allan

Around here, I see cotton, corn, soy beans, and wheat growing...it is all planted what we call locally as sod planting. The ground is never tilled. I see them out there with the herbicides and sometimes small airplanes are diving at the fields. I see bumper crops of corn here this year...cotton is now blooming...wheat has been harvested.

tw

Now we both know you will not do that...lol. I just don't think you'd be happy with the seed bed unless you disked both before and after plowing.

Back to no till,you could do it like my FIL...sorta no till. He just can't stand to be out of the fields so he will plow about 30 acres a year and disk about 80. He used his 706 with a 5 bottom plow and 14' 370 disk.

I think your dad and I went to the same school. But boy! That old 4 bottom plow really tugs on my big tractor.

Just thought if perhaps there might be an easier way to accomplish the same task.

Allan

IH 610 one way disk. I don't know how your soil pulls, pretty hard from the sound of it. I have/will pull this 610 on some CRP (11yrs) with a stock 1066. It will make that 10 snort hard. I usually pull it in Lo 4th, occasionally Lo 3rd or Hi 1st. It does a good job down 4-6"

Other option is another bottom on the plow and a nice 1486....

Rob