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ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what?

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farmallman

08-23-2006 17:42:45




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so after much digging and research, i have found out/told that my plow is a IH Ace Bottom...now, next question, is Ace Bottom the model of the plow? or is there a number that has follows? i know if the moulboards are adjustable, (some are) it is an 8C...that's all i know....nebody know more out there?




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billde

08-24-2006 07:13:37




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to farmallman, 08-23-2006 17:42:45  
Farmallman, go to implement photos, hit next page, there is a no 8 pictured.



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farmallman

08-24-2006 07:43:39




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to billde, 08-24-2006 07:13:37  
thanks, but that is a little genius, mine isnt



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Hugh MacKay

08-24-2006 02:01:14




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to farmallman, 08-23-2006 17:42:45  
farmallman: Your plow is most likely a No. 8 Tractor Plow built at Hamilton Ontario. Do not confuse this with No. 8 Little Genius built at Canton Illinois. Your plow will have adjustable cross members between beams. Your plow probably has levers hinged in middle with three notches to adjust to suit various tractors. The plow depth adjustment will also have a reduction gear, giving finer settings than a Little Genius.

The ACE bottoms were forged at Hamilton, and sold across Canada, in New England and in Europe. When new the No. 8 Tractor Plow could also be equiped with Canton Il forged GP bottoms. You can buy wear parts for your ACE bottoms, right in your home town of Wyoming ON, or any TSC store.

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farmallman

08-24-2006 06:38:12




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-24-2006 02:01:14  
what makes you say it is an ACE No. 8? also, for the old points, there are ACE-8, ACE-7, or ACE 9/10. Does the number corrospond w/ the plow model? or is the number the size of the point (ie, inches from one side to the next?) and if it is the size, what do I measure?



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Hugh MacKay

08-24-2006 14:08:16




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to farmallman, 08-24-2006 06:38:12  
farmallman: You are Mitch Poole's cousin, right or wrong? You live in or near Wyoming Ontario, right or wrong?

Please note I didn't say ACE No.8, but rather No. 8 Tractor Plow, and also make note it is different from a No. 8 Little Genius Plow. The plow beams are close but do have different part numbers. The rear cross members between beams on a Little Genius are diagnol, whereas the No. 8 Tractor Plow has a rear perpendicular cross member. Both front and rear cross members on the No. 8 Tractor Plow are overlaping heavy flat bar with numerous holes allowing one to adjust the plow for 10", 11", 12" and 14" cut. The ACE moldboards are adjustable for width of cut.

The figures ACE-7, ACE-8 and ACE-9/10 are different points for the various width of cut and different plowing conditions. The number is actually the perpendicular distance from landside edge of point to tip of share in inches.

If you send me an e mail I'll return photos of levers and indeed complete plow. Better still sometime you are around I'll drive down. You and I have probably met. We came very close last fall. I've been into both Advantage and Websters several times this summer. I suppose if your working on the outskirts of Wyoming you might work some other place, but I think you work at Websters.

While I said these ACE bottoms were only sold new in Canada, New England and Europe, some of them have strayed to other places over the past 50 to 75 years. I sold one recently that went to Illinois. Another guy near me sold one to a guy in Illinois. There was one in YT photo adds just 3 days ago in North Dakota. He told me he bought it in Canada. I tell you, our American friends are starting to catch on about championship plowing. If you've never plowed with an ACE bottom, you just don't know what your missing. I was tempted to say more, but this is a family site.

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farmallman

08-25-2006 05:40:56




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-24-2006 14:08:16  
ok, yes i am mitch pools cousin, and yes i live near wyoming. Are u the one that he got the steam thresher from? and yes, I work at advantage in wyoming, and thanks for the info on the plow.



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farmallman

08-24-2006 06:11:13




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 Re: ok....so it's an Ace Bottom...now what? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-24-2006 02:01:14  
ok, first things first, ( i lileky mentioned it somewhere) but how do u know where i live? i find it more of a surprise than nething...but o well, I know i can get parts. I work at a tractor dealer and i can get a new moulboard for $170 and points also...i dont know what else i need...i got one of the rims off (note: rim) the tire was shot.

what hinges are you talking about? if u need a pic, i have some pics in the implement photo section, titled 'not sure' the handles that adjust te depth do have a roller...which i was told was specific to IH plows.

and, do you, or anyone u know have any experience with these plows?

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