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Marty Johns

09-01-2006 20:17:39




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Do'nt I remember about a flapper on top of the muffler? I have a mid 40's (A) and do'nt have one! should I make sure to get one, does this have anything to do with needed back pressure or was it just to keep the moisture out?




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Hugh MacKay

09-02-2006 04:17:21




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 Re: exhaust in reply to Marty Johns, 09-01-2006 20:17:39  
Marty: Nat is right, designed to keep rain out. I'm not sure they do that very well though. My first tractor that came with one of those was a Farmall 560. Many times I've looked out on a rainy, windy day, to see the wind holding the cap up and actually catching more rain than if there was nothing on there. My 560, 656 and 1066 all came equipped with those, they soon saw the scrap barrel.

If you truly want to keep the rain out, which you should, a nice soup can that snugly fits exhaust pipe is your very best insurance. If you like the rattle and your engine doesn't matter, spend the money on the rain cap. If you were running a horse, we hope you'd take time to feed him at the end of the day, surely one can take time to get the soup can out of the tool box.

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Wayne Swenson

09-02-2006 06:11:52




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 Re: exhaust in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-02-2006 04:17:21  
How many times did you forget the soup can & have to play "catch the can"??
I have done that too many times, myself!



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Hugh MacKay

09-02-2006 09:32:30




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 Re: exhaust in reply to Wayne Swenson, 09-02-2006 06:11:52  
Wayne: I've forgotten the can many times, but you know, if the exhaust system is in good condition, not much rain will go down that stack over night. You can get noticable water if you have a down draft deflecting water, i.e. tractor parked alongside a higher building. I'll bet those rain caps, if held open by the wind, will deflect more water down a stack than the average building. Another bad spot is a tractor under or near a tree. A tractor in the open field will catch no more water than the average rain gauge, and the most of that will be traped in the mufler.

By the way, I once had a 9" rainfall in 12 hours. At startup time the soup can covered stacks blew no black wet soot. The rain cap covered tractors blew as much black wet soot as the tractor with nothing over the stack.

The only time I ever got much water in an engine was operator had parked 300 with exhaust pipe loose in the manifold. He didn't realize this at the time. He covered the stack but water ran along the hood and followed the pipe down. One cylinder was full of water and the manifold was full.

If you leave them parked for weeks, months, etc., that will be a horse of a different color.

Oh yes, I have chased the can a few times, mainly when I blew it in the air at startup time. And Cowman is right, I bent the stack on my 1066, just that way and it happened before the tractor was a week old.

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Nebraska Cowman

09-02-2006 04:48:45




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 Re: exhaust in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-02-2006 04:17:21  
And I always took them off on tractors that worked under trees. A tree branch will catch on that flapper and bend your muffler over quicker than you can say scat.



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Hugh MacKay

09-02-2006 09:40:06




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 Re: exhaust in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-02-2006 04:48:45  
Howard: You are quite correct, and most headlands have trees. I bent the mufler on my 1066 just as you describe before the tractor was a week old. IH dealer told me I was very lucky the turbo didn't break before the new mufler bent. Do you suppose I'd have gotten warrenty? If a turbo will break, so will a manifold.



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Nat 2

09-01-2006 20:27:55




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 Re: exhaust in reply to Marty Johns, 09-01-2006 20:17:39  
The proper technical term for the flapper is "rain cap."

It's to keep the rain out when the tractor isn't running. :)



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