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12v to 6v switch. What parts?

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Mike CA

09-11-2006 18:15:26




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Part of my restoration plans for my H is to switch it from the amature 12v conversion that has been done back to an original 6v system. What components will I need to buy for the 6v system?

I found this generator on Ebay, and I am pretty sure I will need a generator, since there is an alternator on there now. Or could the generator be on there along with the alternator?

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F-Dean

09-12-2006 05:30:16




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to Mike CA, 09-11-2006 18:15:26  
You will probably have to switch back to a positive ground.



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John T

09-11-2006 20:04:27




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to Mike CA, 09-11-2006 18:15:26  
Mike, you would have to can the 12 volt alternator n get a 6 volt genny and the mounting brackets n hardware etc. As far as voltage regulation, if it originally used a simple 2 wire 6 volt Cutout Relay you will need one of those PLUS the correct light switch that is the combination type that works the lights plus regulates the gennys Field current. They are something like the L (Low charge) H (High Charge) B (Bright Lights) and D (Dim Lights).

In the event it had a full fledged 3 or 4 terminal Voltage Regulator, you would need a 6 volt one of those HOWEVER you could get by fine (better even) if you switched to a 6 volt 3 or 4 terminal Voltage Regulator and didnt have to even use or rely on the light switch regulation circuit system.

The lights need to be changed to 6 volt and you will need a 6 volt coil UNLESS you retained the old 6 volt coil and used an external voltage reducing (12 to 6) ballast resistor when it was converted from 6 to 12 volts, in which case simply toss the ballast and use the old 6 volt coil unballasted THIS IS FOR A COIL IGNITION if its a Magneto no changes required. NOTE if its a coil ignition and was changed to Negative ground when the 6 to 12 conversion was made, I'd go back to Positive ground which may require the coil have its terminals swapped and also the ammeter leads may have to be swapped if its wired backwards.

Theres a good chance the original 6 volt starter was retained meaning no changes are required.

I recommend the biggest highest rated heavy duty battery that will physically fit onto the compartment plus the use of 00 gauge battery n starter n ground cables on 6 volt systems

The ammeter n light switch n starter switch n points n condensor ought to be fine regardless of what voltage is used.

John T

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Mike CA

09-11-2006 21:03:22




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to John T, 09-11-2006 20:04:27  
I copied that unto a word document that I can come back to when I'm ready to work on the electrical system. Cause right now you are talking way over my head, but thats fine. I'll catch up before too long!



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Mike CA

09-11-2006 19:23:36




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to Mike CA, 09-11-2006 18:15:26  
ok, so I won't get THIS generator. But I do need a generator and what else?



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CNKS

09-11-2006 20:09:05




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to Mike CA, 09-11-2006 19:23:36  
See if you can find a place that has parts for older cars, etc, and buy a rebuilt generator and regulator. But 1st try Mike at Steel Wheel Ranch, 785-548-7437. He will give a 30 day warranty. It's ok to go back to a 6 volt system with the unpainted parts, just to see if you can get the thing working -- but if you are doing a complete all parts removed paint job, you will have to disassemble it. Stay away from ebay for stuff you are not familiar with!

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Mike CA

09-11-2006 21:12:00




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to CNKS, 09-11-2006 20:09:05  
I am planning on stripping the tractor down to the frame to restore it, so, like Gene said, I am planning on rebuilding it as a 6v system with all new wires done correctly.



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CNKS

09-11-2006 20:11:13




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to CNKS, 09-11-2006 20:09:05  
Howard (Nebraska Cowman) might have one also.



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RustyFarmall

09-11-2006 19:07:28




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to Mike CA, 09-11-2006 18:15:26  
The generator is removed when the alternator is installed, so if you want to switch it back you definately will need a generator. The one on eBay does appear to be the correct one, but since the seller does not know if it works, you probably don't want to bid it up too high. The shipping on that one is about $20, so if you bid $20 and get it, you will have $40 invested, and you still don't know if it works.

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gene (missouri)

09-11-2006 19:01:42




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 Re: 12v to 6v switch. What parts? in reply to Mike CA, 09-11-2006 18:15:26  
1) I wouldn't convert from 12 volt to 6 volt until I had finished restoring the H. That would be one of the last things I would do.

2) The Ebay generator would probably be one expensive generator. It's sold as is. Meaning you could spend almost as much having it repaired as you could purchase a rebuilt generator for. You will need a regulator for the generator and that is an other $55- or more dollars - even though the ebay generator shows a cutout or regulator.

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