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1086, well I looked at it today, more suggestions?

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alranch

09-11-2006 20:06:15




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1981, 5800 actual hours supposedly, dash/tach/gauges all work. Some different shades of red paint on it, been painted. It was an estate tractor, then a gentleman bought it and kept it for a "short" amount of time and traded it in on something with front wheel assist. It was supposedly never in the field, used only for haying/ranching but no loader ever. The engine paint doesn"t match the original paint on the tractor, things like the oil filter brackets and other bolted on things are also a different shade than the engine, so they weren"t painted at the same time. The dealer said that the gentleman said that he was told... before he bought the tractor that it had a remanufactured engine put in it at some point.... The engine starts right up, don"t see any unusual smoke, there is an amount of blow by, not a whole lot, but there is some. When you put the transmission from park to high, it has some difficulty both going in, and then after thinking it should be in, it popped out of gear. A person could get it in after some fiddling, and it would stay in after it was, shifting 1-4 on the go worked good, high stayed in, no funny noises or vibrations. High bothered almost every time you would shift out and try to shift back in. The dealer got in it, had trouble too, said it probably needed adjustment. They just put a new clutch in so I don"t know why if it was just adjustment in the shifter that they didn"t already have it done. T/a seemes to be good, they say the hydraulics would be tested for pressure before delivery if I would buy. Cab seat is poor, but useable. Not bad looking otherwise. First are those hydraulics on the "81s a lot of trouble, how much to repair, etc.? Second, there is a little blowby, what"s too much? Does the shifting thing sound like a problem? They will deliver it 180 miles for $12k total purchase. Ridiculously high perhaps but that"s in line with others I have looked at in this area. Should I buy the thing? There"s one closer that isn"t bad, don"t know the total hours but I didn"t see blowby, and it shifted into what gears I tried well. It needs to have a t/a put in it, it doesn"t have one at all now (direct), but I think I need the slower speed for some applications. Decent condition, older, old style hydraulics, dash doesn"t work, a little cheaper but same ballpark.

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K.B.-826

09-12-2006 17:25:50




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 Re: 1086, well I looked at it today, more suggesti in reply to alranch, 09-11-2006 20:06:15  
Blow-by at idle is normal for the IH 400 series engines, especially the "B" series engines. Look at the model/serial number right below the intake manifold. If the model number is DT414, it is an "A" series. If it is DT415, it's a "B" series. '81 should have a "B". As for the shifting, it COULD be out of adjustment, but it probably needs the range trans cover rebuilt. Jumping out of gear is a good indication that a detent roller fell off. That's typical. It's a fairly time-consuming job to remove the range cover on an 86 series, so you might as well rebuild the whole shift linkage while you're at it. I have no personal experience with the PFC hydraulics found on the bigger '81 86's, but I do know that they are expensive to fix and many were converted back to the old style. As for the 1086 you are thinking of installing a TA in, if it came from the factory with no TA, it will be very expensive to install one now. If the factory TA was eliminated, it will still be pretty expensive to reinstall, depending on what was done to eliminate it.

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dhermesc

09-12-2006 05:44:01




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 Re: 1086, well I looked at it today, more suggesti in reply to alranch, 09-11-2006 20:06:15  
Talk to the neighbors of the original owner and see if you get a hold of the second owner. Only 5800 hours on a 1981 - its possible. But why would it have needed a remanufactured engine and new clutch (especially after having the engine installed) if its only done haying - especially with no loader? I have a feeling the "second owner" bought it and found he owned a problem and traded it.



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Redfan

09-12-2006 01:20:19




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 Re: 1086, well I looked at it today, more suggesti in reply to alranch, 09-11-2006 20:06:15  
The shift could just a matter of badly needed adjustment, or the selectors could all be worn both inside and outside of the range box.



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IaGary

09-11-2006 20:15:01




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 Re: 1086, well I looked at it today, more suggesti in reply to alranch, 09-11-2006 20:06:15  
alranch

I would have them get it to shift right and if it does it doesn't sound like to bad of tractor to me.

As for the hydraulics- I have not heard of many problems with either type.

Gary



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