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Farmall 230 gear grinding problems

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John in Red Hoo

09-15-2006 16:05:02

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Just replaced the clutch and the gears are still grinding. Anyone have any insight. Your help is much appreciated. Thanks

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gene bender

09-16-2006 02:08:05

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Re: Farmall 230 gear grinding problems in reply to John in Red Hook NY, 09-15-2006 16:05:02

Did you replace the pilot bearing in the crank and did you lube it?

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Hugh MacKay

09-15-2006 23:53:23

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Re: Farmall 230 gear grinding problems in reply to John in Red Hook NY, 09-15-2006 16:05:02

John: You say gears are still grinding. I assume if tractor has been idling in neutral, you depress the clutch and gears don't stop turning. How bad is this, describe where it's at in relation to 20 seconds for gears to stop and will not stop. Just how bad is it?You say replaced the clutch, does that include presure plate, release bearing and pilot bushing?

Usually this is either pilot bushing bad, clutch disc sticking on shaft or a warped presure plate. It could be clutch disc in backwards, but that will make it almost impossible to get proper clutch adjustment.

Tell us just a bit more, maybe we can eliminate some of these and zero in on your problem.

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John in Red Hook NY

09-16-2006 12:38:04

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Re: Farmall 230 gear grinding problems in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-15-2006 23:53:23

Thanks for the quick reply. The tractor is being repaired by a tractor mechanic in my area. I don't have the equipment or knowledge to split a tractor. He replaced the clutch, pressure plate, and pilot bearing. I believe he got the parts at Wengers in PA. He comes highly recommended. Anyway he called yesterday to tell me he put the tractor together and the gears are still grinding when you try to put it in gear. He's going to separate it again today and call me. He sounded a bit lost so I thought I'd reach out for more help. He did mention something about a possible transmission brake causing the problem. I don't understand the 20 second bit. Does it take that long for the gears to stop moving? Thanks again for your help.

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Hugh MacKay

09-16-2006 14:53:43

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Re: Farmall 230 gear grinding problems in reply to John in Red Hook NY, 09-16-2006 12:38:04

John: The 230 doesn't have a transmission brake. Those are usually on larger tractors and designed so when clutch pedal is all the down, it applies a brake to stop the input gears of the transmission.

The most common problems causing transmission not to stop I've seen are; pilot bushing, clutch disc not sliding on splined shaft. On new presure plates, sometimes the fingers are not adjusted equally.

How long have you had this 230? Over the years a lot of folks changed the rear end-transmission oil from 90W gear oil to Hy tran. Hy tran is recomended for the newer tractors that draw their hydraulic oil from the rear end-transmission case. Those tractors for the most part have transmission brakes. Personally I wouldn't do that in these tractors. By these tractors I mean SA, SC, 100, 200, 130, 230, 140 and 240. The heavier oil will slow the input gears of the transmission down faster when you depress the clutch in neutral. You might try changing that oil before you go too far with this. I would refill it with gear oil 90W or heavier. The 230 does require Hy tran in the hydraulic system, but that is a completely separate compartment.

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John in Red Hook

09-17-2006 09:28:18

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Re: Farmall 230 gear grinding problems in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-16-2006 14:53:43

Thanks again for the info. I did change the tranny oil over to hydraulic. Last year. I'll tell him all your recommendations. Hopefully I'll have good news to report next posting

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