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2500A (574) won't stay running

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chadd

09-21-2006 06:34:44




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Hi guys, got another problem. My dad was running our 2500A over to another farm to move round bales. It ran fine when he left, he said about half way over there, it started to lose power and then stalled. He got it restarted, but he had to keep the choke all the way out. When he got there, it was getting too dark, so he just parked it out in the field. When he tried to start it yesterday, it would start and then stall within a second. Changed fuel filter, removed solenoid from bottom of carb, and turned it over, large gush of fuel sprayed out, so I would assume the fuel pump is working and there is definitely fuel in the float bowl. When the key is turned, the solenoid in the carb clicks. It is really odd that it will start and just dies a second later. It doesn't sputter, backfire, or anything. The RPM's just fall off to nothing. If you try to start it immediately after a failed attempt, it will not fire at all. After waiting about a minute, it will run for a second again. If you let it sit several hours, it will still only run a second. The coil was changed last year. Any ideas?

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Janicholson

09-21-2006 12:25:45




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 Re: 2500A (574) won't stay running in reply to chadd, 09-21-2006 06:34:44  
You could have a bad ballast resistor. (I do not know the tractor). Jump to the coil (supply side, not distributor side) with a wire from the non ground side of the battery and see if it will run that way. You may be getting only starter bypass voltage to the coil. JimN



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El Toro

09-21-2006 09:28:40




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 Re: 2500A (574) won't stay running in reply to chadd, 09-21-2006 06:34:44  
Your carburetor must have some dirt in it. Since it will run with the choke on indicates it's starving for fuel. Hal



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chadd

09-21-2006 09:54:33




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 Re: 2500A (574) won't stay running in reply to El Toro, 09-21-2006 09:28:40  
Now after its been parked, the tractor won't run at all. The choke doesn't seem to help it anymore. It will start without the choke. It just won't keep running.



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El Toro

09-21-2006 14:08:41




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 Re: 2500A (574) won't stay running in reply to chadd, 09-21-2006 09:54:33  
Does this tractor have a ballast resistor? Pull the coil wire from the cap and hold within 1/8-1/4" of good ground and have someone to try and start the engine. Should have a good hot blue spark. I would replace the condenser to eliminate it. Clean and gap the points. Check the distributor shaft for any wear. Any slop here won't allow the points to open fully. Hal



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chadd

09-21-2006 15:38:09




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 Re: 2500A (574) won't stay running in reply to El Toro, 09-21-2006 14:08:41  
No, I don't see a ballast resister in the circuit. It is a 12V coil in a 12V circuit. The distributor shaft doesn't seem to have any slop or wear.



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El Toro

09-21-2006 16:53:08




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 Re: 2500A (574) won't stay running in reply to chadd, 09-21-2006 15:38:09  
You don't need a ballast resistor since your ignition system is 12 volts. They are required
if your ignition is 6 volts and you are using a 12 volt charging system with a 12 volt battery.

Have you checked the fire from that coil wire? Since your dad used the choke to coax the tractor home, I thought it was a fuel problem. Place you hand over the throat of the carburetor while someone makes an attempt to start the tractor. There should be good suction on your hand. This is how we used to check cars and trucks when we suspected a faulty fuel pump when they used mechanical fuel pumps. Since this happened all of a sudden I would bring No1 piston to TDC on the compression stroke. You need to pull the sparkplug near the radiator and hold your thumb over the plug hole while someone hand cranks the engine until you feel compression against your thumb. Then look for your timing mark and keep having the engine cranked until the timing mark is aligned with the pointer. Then pull the distributor cap and see where the rotor is pointing. It should be at the No1 plug tower. Hal

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