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Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer??????????

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Retcol

09-29-2006 08:35:06

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I was talking to a trailer dealer yesterday about a trailer to haul my M, SM and SMTA. I don't want to spend the money for a gooseneck and hitch. Therefore, I was looking at a lower profile trailer that measured 83 inches between the fenders and 102 inches overall. The dealer said I could back the M on the trailer and run one wheel over the fender. Does anyone do it this way? If so, how does it work?

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ncdiesel48

09-29-2006 16:52:21

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

Can you actually put a price on safety? Spend the extra on the gooseneck and the hitch. Best move I ever made. They handle the weight sooooo much better then a bumper trailer.

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Retcol

09-29-2006 14:22:41

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

I have 11 tractor of which 8 will easily go on a 10,000 GVW trailer that is 83 inches between the fenders. With only the M, SM and SMTA being wider than the 83 inches I dislike having to spend another $2,000 just to cover those. I plan to only haul one tractor at a time> I have a 3/4 ton Dodge with a 360 engine to pull the trailer.

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09-29-2006 11:07:55

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

Does not sound too safe to me. Are you talking about hauling all 3 on a tag trailer at one time? I hope not. The bad thing I can see if you are only looking at hauling one at a time is if you get some rain/oil/moisture on the trailer deck or fenders, tires of tractor,and you try to back it on the trailer, and a wheel spins, don't want to think about the end result of that one. If you do not want a gooseneck, you can get a deck over tag trailer, that is wide enough to put the tractors on and be safe loading it. Next thing to consider is to make sure you have enought truck to stop it after you get it moving.

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Dr.EVIL

09-29-2006 10:49:39

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

I just hauled Dad's '51 M he bought brand new in Dec. '51 home about 200 miles three weeks ago. Tractor had the STANHOIST loader on it. I rented a 12,000# cap. 16 ft bumper-hitch equipment trailer with fold-up ramps and a 2 ft beavertail, two axle brakes, 16" x 8-bolt wheels. I pulled it with My F-250 4X4 PS diesel pickup. I installed a new 15,000#/16,000# reciever hitch and a 2-5/16" dia. solid steel ball and mount. I had to turn one wheel so it was dished in and tied the tractor down with five 3/8" Grade 70 chains & binders. My gross weight for truck, trailer, & tractor was just shy of 17,000. Tractor didn't have any weights or fluid.... just the loader. If Your towing combination, either truck or trailer, is rated less than My description above I'd say Your asking for trouble. I had NO problems and could run 65-70 and could stop easily without any problems.... Unless Your going to tow the M a LOT it's probably cheaper to rent a trailer. And as far as balancing the trailer & hitch weight, I had the rear axle right even with the back sidewalls of the rear tires. But balance the trailer on a scale....You want 12-15% of the gross trailer weight bearing on the hitch, 10,000# trailer You want at least 1200# added hitch weigh over the weight of just the truck.

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old

09-29-2006 09:37:35

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

I haul tractors with on or at times both rear tires on the rail. Now with that said its not the best or safest way to do it. Your far better off to get a trailor that has either the very short fenders over the tires or just a higher trailor that has no fenders at all. One of these days I'm going to get around to finishing up the trailor I started years ago and when done it will be 5th wheel and have 3 axles under it

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CNKS

09-29-2006 09:34:14

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

Don't try things you can "get by with". Unless you can find a trailer like Cowman suggests DON'T try parking it on the fenders. It will not fit on a car trailer between the fenders unless you dish in at least one wheel, the M is two wide unless it has very narrow tires on it which is not likely. The usual 7000 lb GVW car trailer (GVW means trailer weight and tractor weight COMBINED) is too light, I think the next step up is about 9600 lbs. Trailer dealers are salesmen. The dealers I have talked to don't know anything about towing. Goosenecks are heavy, you need at least a 3/4 ton pickup to tow one. Put it behind a half ton, and the trailer plus tractor will be more than a half ton is equipped to handle. Very important that you know the towing capacity of your truck and pay no attention to someone who simply says "I've done that"

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markloff

09-29-2006 09:58:02

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to CNKS, 09-29-2006 09:34:14

Hello,

I agree completely. I just got rid of a 7,000 trailer. I wouldn't haul a H on it let alone a M. Way too light duty for hauling even 5.000 lbs. Complete waste of money.

Mark

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CNKS

09-29-2006 13:50:02

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to markloff, 09-29-2006 09:58:02

No problem at all hauling an H on a 7000 lb trailer, I have done it several times. But, the tires weren't loaded, and it had only one set of weights. You simply have to know what the thing weighs, use a little common sense and take it from there. My Super H weighs about 4500, maybe 4700 if I remember right. I only have a half ton. I rented a 12000 GVW car trailer once (because the rental place insisted) it weighed about 1000 lbs more than the 7000 lb one I have now. My pickup was overloaded, not from the tractor, but from the trailer. Now that I have my own trailer I weigh everything on certified scales at a local truck stop to make sure I'm legal.

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Don L C

09-29-2006 09:20:18

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

Look in "PHOTO ADS"----type trailors in search box....Deck/over bumper hitch....there is just what you are looking for for $2500

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Don LC

09-29-2006 09:26:09

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Don L C, 09-29-2006 09:20:18

I checked its still there ----14,ooo# ----ad #149295----it would be mine but my tractor money is at "O" right now

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Nebraska Cowman

09-29-2006 09:03:31

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

No No No. There are deck-over trailers made with bumper hitch. Don't let your dealer talk you into a widow-maker. Here is a pic of mine, 10,000 lb GVW and 2 5/16 ball hitch. I have hauled 2 F20s on it lots of times. Fenders are less than 3 inches above the deck and heavy enough to hold up anything. Look around there are a few companies that know how to build trailers.

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ChadS

09-29-2006 09:02:26

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

If your going to haul them around alot, move the rear wheels of the tractors in as close as you can, this can give you some more room on the trailer deck. I have a 24 ft, home made trailer, put on very heavy guage steel fenders so we can haul a tractor with duals and not crush the fenders. I can haul two tractors, back one on, and drive the second up to the rear tire of the first tractor. narrow front ends on the tractors of course. Hope this helps, Chad

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RustyFarmall

09-29-2006 09:02:24

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

The rear wheels of your tractor need to be centered between the axles of the trailer (or close to it) to give the best ride and stability. This means that the rear wheels need to be between the fenders, so running one rear wheel up and over the trailer fender just ain't gonna work, and what's more, your M is too heavy for a bumper hitch car trailer. You can buy a bumper hitch type trailer that WILL handle the M, but the cost will be close to that of a goosneck, and I doubt if your pick-up trailer hitch is rated for that kind of service. In short, bite the bullet and go with a gooseneck, you'll never be sorry.

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markloff

09-29-2006 09:17:01

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-29-2006 09:02:24

Hello,

Who says he is pulling it with a pickup truck? They're are lots of good trailers out there that are either 2 5/16 ball or pintle hitch. What do you guys see used by excavators hauling bulldozers and such? Goosenecks are designed for pickups.

Mark

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RustyFarmall

09-29-2006 12:08:52

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to markloff, 09-29-2006 09:17:01

Hello?? He said he didn't want to spend the money for the gooseneck AND hitch. If he had a truck bigger than a pick-up, he wouldn't be looking for either a goosneck trailer OR a hitch.

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09-29-2006 08:58:27

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Re: Loading a Farmall M on a Trailer?????????? in reply to Retcol, 09-29-2006 08:35:06

Hello,

Works great. I just unloaded my new Super M that way last Sunday.

Mark

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