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nspec333

10-17-2006 12:59:59




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A little nervous about storing my Super H outside this winter. I've flushed the cooling system and added new 50/50 antifreeze mix, changed the oil, put a dollop in each cylinder and rolled it over. It's covered, just exposed to the cold and I'm nervous about something freezing and cracking. Never had it happen with other stuff, but any words of wisdom? I'm in RI, so not too many prolonged periods of frigid cold, but it'll go to 0 at night for a few weeks.

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Pete LaBelle

10-18-2006 10:08:14




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
I always turn off the gas on my tractors and let them starve themselves off, then turn the gas back on to fill the carbs.

Shutting off an engine with the spark allows it to wind down, pulling gas vapor into the cylinders as the govenor opens the throttle plate wide open in the last couple revolutions of the crank. Had a couple tractors lightly set up after a couple years of idlenss in the past when shut down with the spark. Never had an issue with the starve to shut off method.

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Blue3992

10-17-2006 22:19:06




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
Sounds like you got some good info so far.

If you're really concerned though, it seems like you should be able to find indoor storage somewhere for relatively cheap. An H isn't that big, and there's a lot of places that offer winter storage for RV's, Boats, etc.



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IH2444

10-17-2006 19:33:55




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
If you store it under a tarp put black poly on the ground under it to keep the moisture from coming up out of the ground and being trapped by the tarp covering. Leave an opening on each end for the tarp to bratche out any trapped moisture.
Makes a real difference.



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Hugh MacKay

10-17-2006 14:48:41




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
If you live RI, let me assure you Farmalls have seen much more severe winters than you'll get. 50/50 antifreeze mix is good for about -40F. I wouldn't cover it anymore than Bob M has suggested plus a good snug soup can over the stack. A tractor covered with a tarp is far more vulnerable to condensation than one open to the weather.

If you leave it covered, someday in Jan., after you've had fluctating temperatures as I know you must get on the east coast, uncover the tractor, take a look at all the moisture under that tarp. Don't be surprised if you have rain forest conditions under the tarp. I'm expecting that in RI you quite regularly have temperature fluctuation from 0 degrees F to 50 degrees F., several times in a matter of days. Probably the worst thing you can do is cover the tractor, in that climate.

My friend, let the RI showers wash the tractor, and let the RI sunshine dry it out. I'd leave it full of gas, these continental guys are quite comfortable with temps below freezing all winter. Believe me, I've lived by the ocean, and I live in the heart of the continant.

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nspec333

10-17-2006 13:46:10




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
Thanks guys. I did run it after the antifreeze added, so it all mixed and circulated well. Also, did cover both the exhaust and intake.

One more thing - the battery. I"m sure it"s best to store indoors and charge once in a while, but is it hard to repolarize the generator when I reinstall it? Is it even necessary?

Thanks again. My family stored tons of tractors outside and no probs, but this one is sort of special to me.

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Bob M

10-17-2006 14:15:42




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 13:46:10  
Unless the generator is swapped out - or the tractor is struck by lightning while in storage(!) - there's no need to repolarize the generator when you put the battery back in.



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jpl

10-17-2006 13:30:10




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
I did the same covered them good, but I loosened the main trans and rear plug and made sure the water came out, the 560 and 300 both had water in them, they get water in them over a lengh of time. after sitting for awhile the water goes to bottom and is easy to get out. funny, my m didnt have any water in it, must be sealed a little better. well decided to put 560 in garage in case i need it, the pu can sit outside.

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Bob M

10-17-2006 13:27:44




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
My Super H (also Super M) spent their first 45 or so winters outside in cold upstate NY with no ill effects. A few tips:

50 - 50 antifreeze in engine is fine. It'll mix with any water left in the block and prevent freezing down to about -30 or lower.

Put a container or tin can over the exhaust stack, then tie it down so it can't get blown off.

Either fill the gas tank to the filler neck, or better yet drain it completely for winter storage. Temporarily pull the drain plug from the carburetor and remove the sediment bulb to drain any water that might be in 'em.

Cover the seat and transmission with a poly tarp or HEAVY plastic tied down well. (Helps keep water out of the tranny and it saves the seat.)

Inflate the tires (30# front and 12# rear) to minimize flat spotting come spring

Remove the battery, charge it overnight then store it in a dry place.

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Gary Spallinger

10-17-2006 13:14:13




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
It makes me nervous to know you put 50/50 in it after you flushed it . If there was any water in the block it is no longer 50/50 and could freeze



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RustyFarmall

10-17-2006 13:09:32




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
When these old Farmalls were new and still working for a living, very, very few of them ever saw the inside of a shed or the bottom side of a roof. You've already put a little oil into the cylinders, the only other thing I might suggest is to place a weather proof cover on top of the exhaust and secure it so that it won't blow off in the wind. I would not trust the flapper to keep the rain out for that long of a time.

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voager213

10-17-2006 13:05:58




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 Re: storing outdoors in reply to nspec333, 10-17-2006 12:59:59  
i would start it and let it run in the winter put dry gas in it and make sure that the gas tank is coverd up if water gets into it its a major pain in the rear



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