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Re: O/T Model A Axle

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SuperA-Tx

11-30-2006 18:20:40




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Allan, Leroy,

Yall might be right.

I have been told several things. Some say they are off a Model A pickup and some say other things. All I know is that the hum cap covers said V8. But two guys said those were just covers that were added and the wheels were off a Model A. Frankly I dont even care, I just like the wheels/rims.

Anyway I got it off now and cleaning it out. It was full of dirt dobber nests.

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SuperA-Tx

11-30-2006 18:28:33




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 Re: O/T Model A Axle in reply to SuperA-Tx, 11-30-2006 18:20:40  
A differant view.



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Wardner

11-30-2006 19:02:16




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 Re: O/T Model A Axle in reply to SuperA-Tx, 11-30-2006 18:28:33  
This picture clearly shows a hydraulic backing plate. That indicates a '39 to '48. However, those plates can be adapted to any Ford car and light truck from '28 to '38. The sweep of the I-Beam indicates later rather than earlier. I can't see the spring perches and that would narrow down the guess on the year.



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Ron in Nebr

11-30-2006 19:53:34




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 Re: O/T Model A Axle in reply to Wardner, 11-30-2006 19:02:16  
Yep, like Wardner says- hydraulic brakes are 39 up. Looks in the picture like the spindle was just welded solid to the axle, so that'd take a bunch off the resale value to collectors(although it wouldn't be impossible to grind off the weld and make it look original). I'd say if you can find wheels and tires to fit, go ahead and make your trailer out of it. Someday in the future the value of the axle regardless of the weld might make it worthwhile for someone to buy it from ya....in the meantime, making your trailer, try to just bolt everything together without any additional cutting/welding on the axle.

Thanks to all the others on the info regarding the old Ford wheels sizes....I wasn't sure, just knew that the big pile of early Ford wirespokes I've accumulated were all 16 inchers.

Wardner- those big bolt pattern '38 wheels are what the racecar guys run(they call 'em "wide 5's) and often they'll buy some original narrow wheels to mount tires on so they can load their racecars on narrow trailers. Seen that alot....although I have to admit I've hauled a pair of those wheels to several racing swap meets without selling 'em.

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SuperA-Tx

11-30-2006 19:46:53




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 Re: O/T Model A Axle in reply to Wardner, 11-30-2006 19:02:16  
I think they are of a earlier year. Someone said "the earlier year wire wheel spokes were welded but the later ones had holes drilled and the spokes went thru the center and were bent". Mine are welded.

I got them apart pretty easy after I undid the dust cover thing. About a quart of dirt in each one.

Checking on tires tomorrow before I go any further.

Thanks guys. Yall have been a lot of help.

Randy

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Wardner

11-30-2006 20:45:47




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 Re: O/T Model A Axle in reply to SuperA-Tx, 11-30-2006 19:46:53  
Let me just say that your hardware could have come from a Model A pickup. That's only because someone updated that truck. Your pictures show hardware that was iron ore when the Model A was built.

For instance, my '32 pickup has '46 brakes, '41 rear end, '39 tranny, a shortened torque tube from the middle '30s, rear cross member from some later Ford, steering box from I don't know where, and a '62 (?) Mercedes 220 Diesel. I did all this work 40 years ago with the exception of the Diesel which was done about 30 years ago. Before that it had a '51 Mercury engine followed by a 283 cu in Chevy. It also has three extra leafs in the rear spring. I retained the original wheels and one has to look carefully to find the changes. It appears stock and sounds like something Ford built. It is an altered vehicle but not a hot rod. That was part of the allure of the early Fords. They were easily modified.

I made all these changes to beef up the load carrying capacity of the truck. I built a oak and ash ice cream vending body complete with compressor, cold plates, and soda fountain. It was very heavy. In the winter, I ran it with the pickup body and used it everyday until 1981. It only needs a battery to drive it out of the barn. I don't have pictures but I can take and post some.

Everytime I broke something, I made it stronger.

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Ron in Nebr

11-30-2006 21:29:02




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 Re: O/T Model A Axle in reply to Wardner, 11-30-2006 20:45:47  
Wardner, the original definition of a "hot rod" back in the '50's was "a vehicle that has been modified to improve speed OR performance".....your's has for sure been updated performance-wise, as in being able to better perform what ya want it to do! But, if you ever read the "hot rodder" magazines, there's a constant battle over how they think they oughta classify whatever vehicles they're working on.....we can leave that to them and just call yours "improved" or whatever you prefer.

That being said- I'd MUCH prefer to see one with the actual "working" modifications that you've done rather than a "show queen" with unfunctional chrome crud slapped all over it. Please post pics!!! If you decide to post them over on the "classic trucks" forum, where they probably oughta be, at least post something here to let us know.

From a fellow 650D owner..... .

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