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Leee

12-06-2006 04:39:31




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I like to use straw bedding for a few steers I raise. Not many people in my area raise grain crops anymore so it is hard to get straw. In the past I would drill in rye in the fall then cut it mid summer before it heads out I dont't have a combine, the green turns white after a week or so and makes nice straw. My problem this year is we have had the worst wet fall in western NY we have ever had. No one in our area seeded anything this fall. My question is what would happen to rye if you spring seeded it would it amount to anything or not? Would wheat? I only care about the straw. Thanks for your help.

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low budget

12-06-2006 06:52:34




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to Leee, 12-06-2006 04:39:31  
Tried seeding rye in the spring once. Grew kinda like lawn grass, only 6-8 inches tall and no stem. It needs that cold weather short days of fall/early winter to grow properly. Go with oats if you want straw. I'm in central NY so this should be relavent to your climate.



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BOBM25

12-06-2006 06:06:40




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to Leee, 12-06-2006 04:39:31  
I'd sow oats in the spring. I don't think winter wheat will do much if its planted in the spring. Lotta guys are asking that question here in NW Ohio. Winter wheat is in most guys crop rotation, and the straw is baled and sold. The big straw guys will make 50-75,000 little squares a year. Only this year about half of the wheat got sowed cuz it was so wet. Nobody really knows for sure, but the general conscensious is that winter wheat sowed in the spring will still go dormant after it comes up. Our springs aren't warm enough to keep it from not. Then it loses out on growth time and is too young to handle summer heat stress. Wheat doesn't normally "mature" here, it just gets close, then dies. Thats why our kernals are small and test weights aren't normally real good. Our wheat makes cookies and crackers, not bread. I was always told spring wheat from the south like Tx makes bread. Anyway, because you probably don't care about all that, oats are cheep and are normally sowed in the spring, plus the straw is about like wheat straw only a little dirtier

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billde

12-06-2006 05:37:10




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to Leee, 12-06-2006 04:39:31  
Yes, rye will work in the spring we use it on conservation projects every year. Oats if cut in the dough stage will make excellent hay and bedding. Sorghum sudan grass will also work but in my opinion a poor substitute as hay or bedding.



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IaGary

12-06-2006 04:54:59




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to Leee, 12-06-2006 04:39:31  
Leee

You could use spring wheat and oats to do what you want.

May be able to do rye in the spring also but I'm not sure.

Where are you located?

If corn is grown around you, a lot of guys here are using cornstalks for bedding and feed here.

They are round baling them and useing net wrap to hold them together.

Gary



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El Toro

12-06-2006 05:42:46




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to IaGary, 12-06-2006 04:54:59  
When I was on the farm we never had a corn picker
and all the corn was cut by hand and shocked. After the corn was husked or shucked depending on where you lived, the corn fodder was shredded for bedding. Hal



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The Dukester

12-07-2006 20:27:23




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to El Toro, 12-06-2006 05:42:46  
On the farm where I was raised we had a corn husker/shredder for many years...and a threshing machine too. We put up our hay loose too using a flatrack wagon, a hayloader, the forkset in the barn and pitchforks to handle the hay. We always had plenty of bedding material with the corn fodder and loose straw. Our main barn had 5 mows and we usually used 3 of them for loose hay, 1 for straw and 1 for corn fodder. And we often had a strawstack and/or a fodderpile out in the barnyard too. During the winter months we fed the cows hay during the day and corn fodder at night along with their ground dairy ration and silage/haylage every morning and evening. In the morning we shoved the uneaten fodder through the stanchions after letting the cows out in the barnyard and used it to supplement what straw hadn't been pushed into the gutters for daytime bedding. We rebedded with fresh straw every late afternoon after cleaning the gutters before the other chores and milking started. When we went to using a cornpicker and the combine we went to baling all our hay and straw and disked and plowed under most all the cornstalks. We usually filled a couple of upright silos too with corn silage and later haylage too.. We always covered most of the fields we were going to put to corn with manure...needless to say we usually had lots of that....and lots of work getting it all hauled to the fields. There was a lot of work in those days modern grain farmers will never know about.

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El Toro

12-08-2006 06:37:49




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to The Dukester, 12-07-2006 20:27:23  
On the subject of manure we had a large concrete
manure pit and we would dump the manure in there from the cow barn, young stock and horse barn. We would spread that on the fields to be plowed in Feb and March, if the ground was frozen and there's wasn't any snow. We never had any manure loaders all the manure was loaded by hand with
6 tang manure forks. Our neighbor used an ensilage fork for loading his spreader. He was about 6'4" and weighed around 225. He killed himself working. He always raised sweet corn and tomatoes for a cash crop. When he finished the milking he would hop on that Oliver tractor
and cultivate everything even his field corn until late at night. He was up by 4:30am to do the milking too. Hal
PS: Another neighbor had a farm and their son was drafted in 1952. His family had money and kept him in school, but he wouldn't stay in school or on the farm. Sure made him a different man when he came back from Korea. I got married
about the same time I got drafted to one my classmates in 1953. Hal

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El Toro

12-08-2006 04:12:38




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 Re: O/T Straw Bedding in reply to The Dukester, 12-07-2006 20:27:23  
That sure sounds like our everyday routine. We did have the silos filled when someone bought a chopper and instead of 3 weeks to fill both silos
it only took 3 or 4 days. They always mowed hay with mules or horses until my older brother broke the tongue on one the sickle bar mowers when be
got too close to the fence row. My dad wasn't too happy and I said accidents are going to happen. He was worried about getting the mower back in the shed and I took the 10-20 out and threw a chain around the stub tongue pulled it in. The horses were not injured. One rainy Saturday I cut off the tongue and I made a pair of brackets in my shop class and I installed them
on the tongue and I had to drill the holes with
a brace and bit. I wonder how many remember these. I hooked the 10-20 to the mower and stopped by the cow barn and picked up my dad and we went out and mowed hay. In 1950 we got a new H Farmall with a 7-ft sicklebar mower. The following year my brother joined the AF and I got
drafted 18 months later. Hal

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