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Calling Hugh MacKay

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Kevin (FL)

12-14-2006 12:26:14




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Hugh--There's a fellow asking about a "steel-tired Cub" on the T-Talk page. I never heard of that on Cubs, but as I told him--I'm not an expert. I suggested that he post on the Farmall page and you guys could help him out. I answered his post but maybe you can clear things up if I steered him the wrong way.

Thanks and hope everyone is doing OK. We're still doing hurricane work for the family homes and still trying to pay the bills.

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Brownie 45

12-15-2006 16:37:32




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 Re: Calling Hugh MacKay in reply to Kevin (FL), 12-14-2006 12:26:14  
The Amish are kind of big on all sizes of steel wheels on everything even today. Over by Kalona, Ia that's all you see.



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Hugh MacKay

12-15-2006 02:33:21




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 Re: Calling Hugh MacKay in reply to Kevin (FL), 12-14-2006 12:26:14  
Kevin: I did go over and respond. The ridiculous part is the statment "first Cub on rubber". Cub production started 10 years too late for that. Rubber tires were coming on big time in the late 30s. That only got interupted by the war, and even then most companies were coming up with enough rubber for front tires. A 24" tire doesn't require a whole lot of rubber either, compared to some of the big tractors. No way, by 1947-48, there may have been the odd old diehard buying steel on big tractors, but not on those little ones.

There were steel wheels around that would fit Cubs, A, B or SA. I don't think IH made them, and I doubt if they were very popular. You put corks or spades on a wheel that small and your going to have one he!! of a rough ride. I had Canadian ring chains over the years for several 38" wheels and liked them, however on 24" tires they shake the he!! out of both tractor and operator.

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CNKS

12-15-2006 07:05:20




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 Re: Calling Hugh MacKay in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 02:33:21  
"No way, by 1947-48, there may have been the odd old diehard buying steel on big tractors, but not on those little ones"

Hugh, I grew up on a vegetable farm, many crops on 20 inch rows. Requires a 9" or less tire for cultivation which we had on our two B's. I have never seen a B on steel, but many Ford 2/8/9N's, not out of the realm of possibility that someone would equip a cub that way for cultivation, although there really is no reason to do that, since the 7-9 inch tires would work fine. We had narrow steel on our H for cultivation, swapped the wheels for 11-38's for tillage. So, steel did have it's place, and was not necessarily caused by the WWII rubber shortage. I do agree that a person has to be nuts to actually order steel unless he needed to cultivate as we did.

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Jim Becker

12-16-2006 06:31:50




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 Re: Calling Hugh MacKay in reply to CNKS, 12-15-2006 07:05:20  
6-24 tires were available on the early Cubs. They took care of most narrow row requirements. Steel wasn't offered from the factory. Somebody could have been nuts enough to change one, but I've never seen a Cub that was converted.



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Hugh MacKay

12-17-2006 14:11:28




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 Re: Calling Hugh MacKay in reply to Jim Becker, 12-16-2006 06:31:50  
Jim: Hard to believe someone was actually that far in the NUTS category. There were some steel wheels in our area on A and SA, I expect they would bolt up to a Cub. I always figured they were manufactured locally. The one's I've seen were fitted with horse shoe type toe corks and they were using them harvesting ice from lakes. Folks didn't like taking big tractors out on ice with one end of lake open from harvesting. They would pull sleds loaded with ice to edge of lake with 8N, A, SA, etc. Once on shore a big tractor would take over.

I remember hearing a story about one enterprising young man built and upside down buzz saw on 3 point of 8N. His idea was to cut 2/3 way through 18" ice every 2' both directions. One day he dropped the saw a bit too quickly, saw sent tractor on rubber across the ice and into the open water. That project required a bit of refinement.

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