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Hugh MacKay

12-15-2006 04:30:16

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I see some folks giving advice on the home page that I've been giving you IH guys for 6 years now, on finding internal engine noise. Now, I don't mind folks taking credit for this wooden dowell idea, it's been used across North America for years.

These guys are not very colorful or brave, just think of the number of times I've told you guys to just cut off the wife's broom handle. Just go get the Mrs. a new broom, she deserves it, and besides the brissels from a new broom wont hurt near as bad should she decide to take a swipe at you with it.

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n8terry

12-16-2006 08:03:45

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

I have to get my 2cents in on this. I use a piece of garden hose. Its especially nice to get into tight places.

Did you all know that they have a new stethoscope
out now that has a broom handle for one ear and the garden hose for the other? You guys are not keeping up to date on the latest stuff on sale at Sears, I can see that.

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P Backus

12-15-2006 11:48:07

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

I tried that on a PTO shaft that was making noise one time, but it didn"t seem to work for some reason. ;>)
Paul

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Hugh MacKay

12-15-2006 16:47:44

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to P Backus, 12-15-2006 11:48:07

Paul: Open shafts were a bit tricky, especially if that noise source was a U joint. It works great along the tractor castings, finding internal noise.

I basically just wanted to have a bit of fun with this. The testimonials on the YT home page made it sound as though these guys made some great new discovery. This technology has been with us since man first built machines from steel. I always like to see if I can get some unsuspecting guy to cut off his wife's broom handle without thinking about the consequences. Quite a serious buch of individuals here at YT. I figure there is no point whatever, being into old iron unless you can have some fun with the subject.

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PatMz

12-15-2006 06:46:30

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

I thought that's why Craftsman tool sets always have that BIG screwdriver included.

Dad taught me to always put my thumb between the "listening device" and my ear, don't know why, but I can always hear better that way.

Don't need no stinkin' stethoscope!

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Steven@AZ

12-15-2006 06:30:43

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

I've been using the wooden dowel trick for quite a few years - not always to diagnose a problem, but to listen to the engine/transmission of a potential purchase to see if they are trying to hide something.

Still going to get myself one of those nice stethoscopes someday, though... along with a bore-scope so I can see inside the engine.

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12-15-2006 06:26:45

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

Hugh,
That must be human nature. I have been working in and around lawn and garden equipment, professionally for over 30 years. I have made a lot of little tools to make my job easier, then low and behold, a few years down the road, you will see the tool I made or modified in a "new and hommade tools" section of an update seminar book, like someone just dreamed that one up.
Jim

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El Toro

12-15-2006 05:50:15

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

Sometimes that broom handle may give you the wrong diagnosis. My late father-in-law had a 1950 flathead Ford with a V8 engine and he had a noise in it and the car only had 50,000 miles on it. He wanted me to tell him what the noise was and it sounded like like a loose rod. The car didn't use any oil and ran good on the road.

I told him to stop by the Ford garage and have them listen to the noise. They said that's a worn timing gear as soon as he rev up the engine.
I replaced the timing gear and sure enough that fixed the problem. Hal

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Allan In NE

12-15-2006 05:38:03

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2006 04:30:16

However,

Ya can't be 'bout half deaf like I am. :>(

Heard the turbo on my 1066 for the first time yesterday.

I was standing up on the hood working on the heater core thru the hole in the roof while the engine was running. Finally heard that jasper spinning. :>)

Allan

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P Backus

12-15-2006 11:40:24

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Re: Finding internal engine noise. in reply to Allan In NE, 12-15-2006 05:38:03

Hello Allan,
That turbo probably hasn"t had a reason to spin, what with all the lounging around that it does at your place. Gotta take that sissy muffler off and drop that plow in the ground- then you"ll hear the whistle!
My 4166 never had a muffler- factory didn"t put one on those. Now that tractor you can hear plainly from 1 1/2 miles away. Or at least I used to be able to hear it. Huh? Did you say something? Whazzat again?
Actually a quiet turbo is a good thing.
Paul

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