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Mike colo

01-02-2007 14:32:28




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Guys , Can I get enough charge using a 6 volt charger to start my super H




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El Toro

01-02-2007 16:13:03




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 Re: charging a battery in reply to Mike colo, 01-02-2007 14:32:28  
Your tractor would start easier if you have a block heater. I would use 15-40wt oil too. I use a dip stick heater on my garden tractor when its real cold. It has a starter/generator and takes a good belt and battery to crank over the engine. Hal



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Janicholson

01-02-2007 14:47:02




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 Re: charging a battery in reply to Mike colo, 01-02-2007 14:32:28  
We cannot tell you without more info. Here are some possible answers.
Yes. Leaving a quality charger on the battery will charge it even if the charger is a 5 or 6 amp unit. It just takes time. Maybe as much as 24 hours with a trickle charger. Warming the battery will help massively. Getting it up to 60 or 70 degrees is great for output. Warming it in the house is not good due to the emissions of hydrogen when gharging. Not a good idea.
Yes faster with a 20 to 30 amp charger. Maybe as little as two hours. (warm the battery)
Yes with a booster battery charger. That can add as much as 150 to 200 amps for short periods when starting. Do not abuse the duty cycle (time on/time cooling or it will burn up). I would charge for 20 minutes at a rate like 25 to 30 amps then try to start it. High rate charging produces explosive gasses, shut off the charger before disconnecting, or connecting the leads. Battery connection to the battery side of the starting switch at the starter and a ground next to the starter is less risky, and more direct. The cables need to be at least Two "O" in wire size to use a 6v system. they need twice the amps to start compared to a 12v. Good luck JimN

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JayWalt

01-02-2007 15:32:17




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 Re: charging a battery in reply to Janicholson, 01-02-2007 14:47:02  
If you do use a fast charge, be sure to check the battery water afterwards. Use DISTILLED water to fill it up just to where the tube start. You will notice the meniscus as soon as it forms when the water level reaches the tube. A meniscus is the curvature that water has on the edge of a tube due to it being slightly adhesive. mecury's meniscus is opposite, kinda cool.



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Mike colo

01-02-2007 14:57:20




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 Re: charging a battery in reply to Janicholson, 01-02-2007 14:47:02  
Thanks for your help .I thought it might work but wanted to be sure I didn"t ruin anything . We just dug out from 5 foot snow drifts . Went out the this morning and she didn"t want to turn over,it was about 15 out . We need the snow but not all at once



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Janicholson

01-02-2007 15:09:24




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 Re: charging a battery in reply to Mike colo, 01-02-2007 14:57:20  
I assumed (but did not state) that the charger needs to be 6 volt. If it is not, there be danger. A 12v battery can be used to start it (jumpered as follows : hook the positive cable to ground on the starter mount bolt. Put the tractor in neutral and block the clutch down to reduce loads on the starter. Turn on the ignition, but do not use the starter button/rod. Touch the other jumper lead to the starter side of the starter switch giving the starter 12v directly. This keeps 12 volts out of the other systems, and the starter motors on farmalls just spin faster with 12v, they do not fail from the extra juce. Good luck. JimN (I got my PHD from Colorado State F.Collins. I've been in that snow on horse tooth mountain. Have fun, stay safe, JimN

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1951farmallh

01-02-2007 14:36:36




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 Re: charging a battery in reply to Mike colo, 01-02-2007 14:32:28  
Mike, It depends on the amperage coming from the charger. It may not have enough "umph" to start the tractor.



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