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Tom Windsor

01-06-2007 21:37:37




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As I have mentioned before, I am a city boy moved to rural NC. My neighbor, who cannot hear, but knows everything, has taken me under his wing to keep me out of trouble. He has several Green Houses in which he grows strawberries, tomatoes and who knows what else--I have not seen any whackie weed yet. He has decided that I need a green house, I discovered this, today, when he drove up in my yard with a pickup load of plastic to cover it with. He and I purchased a sawmill together and we spent the day sawing out boards to frame up the building with along with shaping the piping to support the roof. At one time I thought that the Lawyering and city life was a tough thing to do...now, I have reconsidered, and have decided that this country farm stuff is only for the hardy and not the faint of heart. So, all of you out there that are making a living digging in the ground...I take my hat off to you...cause you just have to know too damn much to make a living doing it.

TW

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SuperA-Tx

01-07-2007 11:16:14




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 Re: O/T Greenhouse, friends and stuff in reply to Tom Windsor, 01-06-2007 21:37:37  
Tom,

We have 55 quonset greenhouses we cover every year with plastic. Most of them are 40 X 100.

Its a big job to get it all done and a lot of expense but you never know when that killing freeze will come.



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Jim in NC

01-07-2007 04:16:03




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 Re: O/T Greenhouse, friends and stuff in reply to Tom Windsor, 01-06-2007 21:37:37  
Hey Tom, glad to see that you appreciate those of us with this lifestyle. I am between Winston and Greensboro and am fighting the developers and realtors to hang on to the farming lifestyle. I am the fifth generation member of my family to own this farm. I realized yesterday while running errands and seeing some the few old farm barns and sheds around how special my lifestyle is. Anyone with good credit and a good job can go out and buy a new house on a developed lot or residential area with lots of flair and eye candy. They are being built everyday. I have something that only a few people have, even though many would not want it. My love of this land and my lifestyle is priceless to me. The well-over 100 year house my family owns started as a one room log cabin. Additions were made as the years passed. The floors creak, corners are not square, the windows stick, but the memories make up for all the inconviences. Knowing the price of land in the area, the newcomers see our few acres of land and wonder why we don't sell it. They just can't understand why we want to live like hicks. At a recent county planning board meeting about a new, large development, one of the developer's wives talked about being glad to see car lights at night from houses being built near her. She and her doctor husband had built here "in the country" over 30 years ago. If she had wanted neighbors, why didn't they stay in town? Sorry to be so long but sharing my passion about this way of life has forced me to defend my lifestyle. The newcomers want us area residents to accept them. All I want is for them to return the favor.

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Hugh MacKay

01-07-2007 06:41:31




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 Re: O/T Greenhouse, friends and stuff in reply to Jim in NC, 01-07-2007 04:16:03  
Jim: Well written, I think Tom loves the benefits, but will the masses ever catch on.

So many times in life I've seen folks move to the country mainly for less expensive real estate. Once they get there, then they want arenas, ball parks, theater, etc. Once they have enough numbers they usually get what they want, which in turn forces the taxes up, by then they have develop every square foot to increase the tax base and people numbers to pay for all of this. Sad but I've seen a lot of nice rural communities go this route.

I once hired a guy to work on the farm, a local who had gone to the city to seek his fame and fortune. While there he married a city girl. Then his grand dad left him some acerage near by. He built a house, was planning on commuting to city. This guy soon discovered my wages less his commute were quite competitive with city wages. Soon after I hired him, he and his new bride were at our house. She lamented how there was no city services like swiming pools, ball parks, libraies, etc. Finally I said, "Lady if you wish to pay the taxes, I'm certain we can have gold plated sidewalks out here, even though the houses are 1/2 mile apart. Problem is I don't think you'll get too many folks out here to agree with you." He dug his heels in and stayed, she left with 3 children. Sad, he had the nicest little spot, very private.

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Jim in NC

01-07-2007 07:49:38




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 Re: O/T Greenhouse, friends and stuff in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-07-2007 06:41:31  
Hugh, you are right on with your thoughts. What we 'misfits' are fighting is a collaborative effort of 5-6 local governments and developers and realtors who are deciding in their best interests how to make lots of money and increase the tax base. As of now they want this area divided into 3 areas of growth, business and retail, recreation and retirement area, and intellectual and medical area. There is no place for folks like me mentioned. Many of country hicks are going to meetings and writing editorials just to let the elite know that we are around and that we do not like it. What I tell them when they talk about moving to the "country" and enjoy the open space then complain about not having conviences they want is that they are bringing with them the things that left behind; higher taxes, congestion, etc. It makes some think, but most kust stare at me and wonder why I am here since I don't fit in.

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Hugh MacKay

01-07-2007 09:30:20




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 Re: O/T Greenhouse, friends and stuff in reply to Jim in NC, 01-07-2007 07:49:38  
Jim: My advice to you is change your business from making a living off the land, to a new business of relieving over paid folks of their excess dollars, by making money from the land. Keep yourself out of debt, hang on until the price is right, keep writing those letters. All of a sudden they'll realize it's worth big money to have you gone.

Then just move to their next potential big prize development. I know a family that did this 5 times in two generations, and today they are all multi millionaires. No use fighting them, just prosper from their debt. You can't live with them, any individual can get rid of his own debt, but he will never relieve himself of his share of the public debt.

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Jim in NC

01-07-2007 08:00:47




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 Recent letter to editor in reply to Jim in NC, 01-07-2007 07:49:38  
This is my latest letter addressing our problem.

NO PLACE IN THE HEART FOR US MISFITS


Let’s see if I have this right. The original Heart of the Triad (HOT) plan is now the New HOT plan. Beginning from an area of 6-8,000 acres, it grew to 18,000 acres, and now is 6-8,000 acres again even though it will still cover 18,000 acres. The “best fit” plan has three distinctive areas of development containing businesses, retirement and recreational areas, and intellectual and medical centers.

Where do we Misfits “fit” into this plan? We Misfits are comprised of citizens that have lived in the area for many generations. The Misfits have historical and emotional ties to their land and are mostly plain and simple country folks that have produced this “special place” that the HOT planners want to control. We are an impediment to the growth and development of the HOT Plan.

Clearly, the Heart of the Triad continues to have NO heart. From the beginning, it was evident that we Misfits would not have a piece in this puzzle when no local residents were selected for the HOT steering committee. Many Misfits have attended HOT meetings and HDR’s week-long “charadettes” in April, 2006. We voiced our concerns, but there were no puzzle pieces symbolic of farms and privately-owned open spaces given to us to place on their maps. Only business, park, and recreational area spaces were offered.

We Misfits are concerned how this area will be governed. Will there be elected officials that can be held accountable by the voters? I fear that an invisible layer of bureaucracy of appointed leaders will be created to manage this area. This will allow our elected officials to abdicate their accountability to the citizens. We Misfits believe we will have even less representation than we do now.

Since the Misfits and I, a fifth generation owner of a N.C. Century Farm, apparently are not a fit for the HOT Plan, what becomes of us? Would the HOT planners like for us just to fade away so they can asphalt our legacy? We could relocate to another area, build and nurture it, and someday our grandkids and great-grandkids would face this same problem as we do now. I understand that there is a large amount of uninhabited swamp land in Eastern North Carolina. In the back drawer of the HOT Steering Committee’s filing cabinet, I would not be surprised to find a puzzle piece for this.


Jimmy Morgan
Colfax

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JayWalt

01-06-2007 21:50:53




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 Re: O/T Greenhouse, friends and stuff in reply to Tom Windsor, 01-06-2007 21:37:37  
I agree Tom. I do see those lazy construction workers from odot just standing around. But those people that really do alot of manual labor in that area, I give them credit. My brother is a fabricator. He fabricators tankers and semi rigs. He is SOLID as a rock from work. He is huge. I'm sure part of it is genetic, but man is he huge since he started there. I plan on next year turning my shed 180 and maybe extending it, that will be a pita =\. In about 3 or 4 years I'll be reshingling the roof probably alone. Well with my dad's supervision =P. Probly only get a section at a time done on the weekends, unless I can snag another layoff =P. I'm not looking forward to it =)

My one friend at work lives on a farm, they bale hay and everything. He is not real big, but he is strong!! For those back in the day, like pre-1900, jesus, I bet that was fun.

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