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Ken McCubbin

01-14-2007 08:29:49




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I've been looking for some cheap horsepower. Most of the IH / Farmall units I've been seeing have bad or slipping TAs. How expensive a fix is this usually?




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Field Boss Driver

01-15-2007 16:10:54




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 Re: TA in reply to Ken McCubbin, 01-14-2007 08:29:49  
I just picked up a IH 966 the first week of Jan.The farmer I got it from handed me a red handle,He said ,here, you'll need this. He told me he had a new TA put in and took the handle off so no one could abuse the TA. I guess if you can't use the TA it will last a long time. I'm looking forward to spring so I can use this Red Power.



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GeneP

01-14-2007 15:44:42




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 Re: TA in reply to Ken McCubbin, 01-14-2007 08:29:49  
The TA on my 706D has been erratic for the last 6 or 7 years. I only use it for light duty now. Sometimes when you let out the clutch it is as if the torque is in low, you can let off the throttle and the tractor will surge ahead, like the torque was shifted to high, even though you never touch the torque. Is there any easy fix or rehab that can be done?


Gene



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Janicholson

01-14-2007 09:51:10




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 Re: TA in reply to Ken McCubbin, 01-14-2007 08:29:49  
A TA is very much worth repairing (and even if done in a shop would likely not match cost of the same Hp in a pricy green machine). Do not fret over the TA it is possible that the only thing wrong with it is the overrunning clutch. (depends on unit) I give them a strong recommendation. JimN



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CNKS

01-14-2007 08:55:39




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 Re: TA in reply to Ken McCubbin, 01-14-2007 08:29:49  
I think rebuilt TA's sell for $600 plus? I don't consider that prohibitive, but I have never replaced one. Tires cost more than that. It's the labor that costs the money, if you hire it done.



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Brian in MO

01-14-2007 08:56:00




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 Re: TA in reply to Ken McCubbin, 01-14-2007 08:29:49  
What size IH/farmall are you talking about the old (400-560-656) t/a's are around $500-$700 for parts (rebuilt t/a, gaskets etc.). The bigger tractors (706-1066 etc.) can be upwards of $1000 just for parts this would be on the low end, labor depends on where you take it or do it yourself, in both cases there are other things you may want to check/replace while your in there. However once you do that if you take care of it and use it properly (which is the reason the t/a is out of it in the first place) it will last a long time. One more thing the t/a is not a thing that has to work in order to keep using the tractor I have known of tractors the t/a has not worked for years, but in my opinion they are worth fixing. Also I really don't like when someone selling a tractor says the t/a is weak, they don't have a "weak", they are either work or need replaced there is no in between they may hold once in a while and not hold sometimes but that means they need replaced. Brain

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Gary in TX

01-14-2007 08:32:48




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 Re: TA in reply to Ken McCubbin, 01-14-2007 08:29:49  
Buy ya a good John Deere and you won't have to worry about a TA.



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RustyFarmall

01-14-2007 11:30:00




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
John Deeres answer to the TA was the powershift, which was a direct decendent of the select-o-speed used in Fords. Ford gave up on it and mother Deere snatched it up. Deere lovers also think the roll-a-matic was quite the innovation, but did you know that the roll-a-matic was first marketed to IH?
The International Harvester boys installed a few of them on Farmall Bs for testing purposes, and quickly realized there was absolutely no advantage to the Rube Goldberg-like contraption, so they sent the inventor on down the road.

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Bob

01-14-2007 12:45:09




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 Re: TA in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-14-2007 11:30:00  
We always hear the Deere powershift was based on the Select-o-speed. This MAY be true, but there is NO comparison.

There were a couple of BANDS used in the Ford. The Deere version had only multiple disc wet clutch and brake packs.

And the Deere version is TOUGH. It's almost unheard of for a 4020 PS to fail. I know, I have one I try to "kill" everytime I move snow with it!



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RustyFarmall

01-14-2007 12:56:54




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 Re: TA in reply to Bob, 01-14-2007 12:45:09  
I've been around a couple of those powershifts that had been killed. Don't know what kind of abuse or lack of maintenance they had been exposed to. Probably was done by the same folks who know how to wreck a "wrecking bar".

Nevertheless, the powershift was not a John Deere innovation.



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Bob

01-14-2007 14:48:26




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 Re: TA in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-14-2007 12:56:54  
I never said the 4020 powershift was a DEERE innovation, just that it has very little in common with the Select-o-speed design.

What the heck... neither Ford nor Deere really had to come up with anything NEW for their powershifts... auto trannies in cars were "old hat" by then, and the tractor powershifts are VERY similar to car trannies, minus the torque convertors and automatic shift features.

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tn terry t

01-14-2007 11:18:55




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
a good john deere ????? ?????



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City-Boy McCoy

01-14-2007 10:31:08




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
Sometimes it is more interesting to not follow the crowd....



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Ken McCubbin

01-14-2007 08:54:45




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
not much cheap JD hp out there



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