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Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp.

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Baxter-13

01-21-2007 10:28:43

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Ok last time i poasted i got some good responces..but i relly didnt get much out of it....soo heres my problem..i Have a 1950 farmall M and im overhualing it, i was goin to keep my old head but i got a head wich is a high comp. 6080-DB, and i took the rocker arm assembly off the old head and tried to put it on my new one, well i put it on and it does not match up, like if i have one side of the rockers touching the valves where it suposted to, the other side will be off, also where the assembly bolts down to the head it does not match, same as the vavles like if one side is on the other will be off.....and if any body wants pictures..i can olny e-mail them because i cant fighre out how to post them on here...my e mail is southrenflyin@aol.com so just e mail me to get pics....

THANK YOU ALL
-Ryan B..13 year old

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Baxter-13

01-22-2007 08:38:39

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

thank you all..i fell relly stupid now...this morning there was snow..and a little slush on the back rodas..so i rode my 4 wheller to my pops house..where the old head was...broung it home and found out it was the same head!! They are both marked 8060-DB with a 6 right below the 8 maby a little the the right..and one has the casting number where its outside of the head..i think its where, or what year it was produced..well the old head read, 3 28 1 and was stright accrost....the "new" head that i have read, 10 22 W and was side ways...does this mean any thing...and thank you super-A Tx for getting my pic right

thanks -Ryan

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Janicholson

01-22-2007 09:57:13

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13, 01-22-2007 08:38:39

Baxter, If the "new head still has the issue with the rockers, measure the spring installed height (length of the valve spring with nothing pushing down on it), installed in the head like the photo. If they are the same, then the valves are probably correct, and all that is left is to determne what you need to do clean, combine parts, or reassemble with a head known to be OK after just cleaning dirt and deposits off of it. If they are different, I would believe (as indicated in other posts) that the valves in the new head are for a different head. Jimn

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Janicholson

01-22-2007 09:55:49

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13, 01-22-2007 08:38:39

Baxter, If the "new head still has the issue with the rockers, measure the spring installed height (length of the valve spring with nothing pushing down on it, installed in the head Like the photo. If they are the same, then the valves are probably correct, and all that is left is to determne what you need to do clean, combine parts, or reassemble with a head known to be OK after just cleaning dire and deposits off of it. If they are different, I would believe (as indicated in other posts) that the valves in the new head are for a different engine. Jimn

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Janicholson

01-22-2007 06:41:12

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

I cannot open the picture in the post below, so I may be in the dark. In your post you indicate 6080 DB as a casting number. That is not the 8060 indicated as correct. If you have the gasket from the original head, and the new head that is not working, place the old gasket on the new head and check alignment of holes, and spacing of bores. Ill bet the head is from a different machine. If the gasket looks perfect, try the head over the studs w/o gasket to check alignments of edges and outlets. Check intake and exhaust manifold alignment. Check the total head height from deck of block mating surface to valve cover gasket seat. If these are ths same, I would be amazed. Keep us in the loop, JimN

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Baxter-13

01-21-2007 16:03:19

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

this is it

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SuperA-Tx

01-22-2007 07:30:05

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13, 01-21-2007 16:03:19

Heres the picture for you.

third party image

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El Toro

01-21-2007 15:26:59

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

Take a look at your email. Hal

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Baxter-13

01-21-2007 14:27:38

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

good god..ive thaught 3 diffrent things so far..lol...but i think the old head was disalate not shure...so idk but ill check the archives

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Baxter-13

01-21-2007 13:15:13

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

Ok, i think i am figuring this out.. are all IH heads that are high comp. models stamed with 6080-DB?..and if they are then this head is not for an M, it must be for a larger tractor...money well wasted!..o well i can just sell my low and this head, what ever it is and get a new one.

Also any way to figure out what heads go to wich tractors?

Thanks
-Ryan

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Far Mall Phil

01-22-2007 01:26:26

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13, 01-21-2007 13:15:13

Ryan, If the head you have is the one that you got from Bruce, it is WITHOUT A DOUBT an 8060 head!

It WILL work on the M tractor that he gave you.

I have seen the 8060 head that he had in person and know the M tractor he gave you as well.

I do not know anything aboout your mechanical skills, but maybe you should get a mechanic or someone that has worked on an M to help you out so you can solve your problems.

The man that gave you that tractor knows a whole lot more about the letter series Farmalls than people give him credit for.

He can work on a any of the letter series blindfolded. He has helped out a lot of folks in your area. Heck two years ago I saw him change a clutch system in a Farmall H in a little over 40 minutes from start to finish, and he did this all by himself. He has a shop full of special tools (splitting stands, jack adapters to hold/lift just about anything, a nice hydraulic sleeve puller with a complete set of pucks for it, etc.) All of these tools he has made in order to work on these tractors.

If I were in your shoes I would not hesitate to contact him and ask for his assitance.

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D Slater

01-21-2007 14:20:08

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13, 01-21-2007 13:15:13

For a M 8060 or 8574 is the number.

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Baxter-13

01-21-2007 10:53:07

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

yup im 13..been wrokin on these things senice i was 11 i think..fisrt i had a 350 but that was junk,,,got a H and still have it, and this M im wrokin on right now.....yea i hope this head fits..i relly wanted a high comp. for pulling

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Randy as in Randy-IA

01-21-2007 14:14:36

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13, 01-21-2007 10:53:07

Hi Baxter , I can't answer your question but have you tryed a search of the archives ? I know there was some discussion of this last year . Something about a distillate valvetrain won't fit a LP head which is I think what you have . IF it is an lp head don't sell it till you find out just exactly what it's worth in your area . But don't ask for the moon or a bucket of gold for it either . Or just find a valve train for it . You have a good head so try and use it ( I guess that can be taken a few different ways ;] ) . Good luck ! ...Randy

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JayWalt

01-21-2007 10:47:17

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Re: Again the Heads low comp. to a high comp. in reply to Baxter-13 , 01-21-2007 10:28:43

you're 13?

Sounds like u got a head that is not going to fit no matter what =\ If the bolts dont line up nd the rockers dont fit...

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