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Re: Low speed gears - H

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Wardner

01-28-2007 01:09:14




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Because the countershaft low-low first gear is so small, it is machined on the countershaft. In addition to that, you will need a different second-gear countershaft gear because the regular gear is a cluster gear with first and second made from the same chunk of metal. You will also need a new reverse idler gear. Finally, you will need a new mainshaft first gear. There may be misc parts such as spacers and bearings.

There is a slim chance that tranny parts from a 460 will fit and give you a low-low first. I wouldn't count on it, but to be sure, you would have to consult both parts books. If it did work, it is likely that your PTO would not work.

I mention the above because I installed 560 gears and bearings in a SMTA transaxle. I got a low-low first and, when it was multiplied by the lower speed differential, it is very slow. I did the math at some point, and first gear was less than half of stock. I think it was around .7 mph at rated rpm.

The factory recommends that tractors (Farmall M) equipped with the low-low option use a wide front and four front wheel weights.

I suspect there is some crop that used the low-low set-up. Perhaps a tree nursery for transplanting. I dunno. Maybe somebody else does.

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Andrew Z

01-28-2007 09:11:33




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 Re: Low speed gears - H in reply to Wardner, 01-28-2007 01:09:14  
We bought our Super H from the origional owner, and he said the reason he got the low low gear was to plant, and cultivate. I guess back in the 50's and 60's the man had quite a veg. farm and that was his big tractor. and the low low gear is stamped in the serial number plate, M would indicate low low gears for the later supper series and newer, before that that it would be like X6 or X6A there was a whole list of number that they used to indicate optional speeds.

Andrew

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Pat H

01-28-2007 10:22:48




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 Re: Low speed gears - H in reply to Andrew Z , 01-28-2007 09:11:33  
Andrew, is the serial number with the low speed gears SH 13XXX MJ or SH 20XXX MJ? I think I have your tractor on the serial number list but I don't have the M suffix listed for low speed gearing. Only 3 tractors on the list out of 542 have the M suffix. Thanks, Pat in Wis



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Andrew Z

01-28-2007 13:56:43




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 Re: Low speed gears - H in reply to Pat H, 01-28-2007 10:22:48  
I have to check the exact serial number, but its like SH 27634 M J or something like that, was made in mostly June and July of 54 from the cast codes. I know It has the low low gears I got the info from Guy Fays data book. I know its a pretty rare combanation a Stage II with the low gear package.

Andrew



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Pat H

01-28-2007 15:25:44




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 Re: Low speed gears - H in reply to Andrew Z, 01-28-2007 13:56:43  
Thanks, would appreciate knowing the number and adding it to the list. Sure not many M code super H's that I've seen. Pat in Wis



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