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Farmall Super MV

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montanaelkhunter

02-10-2007 18:52:45




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I think that I might have found a Super MV. I am going to look at it next week and was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how many were produced and if any of them came with a single front. I remember hearing that all the high crop farmalls had wide fronts. The guy said something about it being convertible between high and regular, but I have never heard of anything like that before. Thanks for any information.

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montanaelkhunter

02-16-2007 14:19:13




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 18:52:45  
Well, I looked at that tractor the other day and it is indeed a MCH cotton tractor for a cotton picker. The sheetmetal and rubber are ok. It is stuck. The front wheel is a 7.50 x 20 and it stands as high as some later model high crops. Still trying to make up my mind what it is worth.The guy is asking $500. With everyone's help it took just a minute to figure out what it is. Thanks to all.



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Montanaelkhunter

02-11-2007 11:25:22




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 18:52:45  
The next question for me is are the cotton picker tractors worth anything? Can they be used for parts to fix something else. Did they stamp the block and like on regular IH tractors with the FBK, etc. Or did they do it at the dealer and maybe that information would not be there?



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NDS

02-11-2007 12:12:09




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to Montanaelkhunter, 02-11-2007 11:25:22  
They are in fact modified every day tractors and most parts will interchange some were sent to Memphis works from factory for pickers to be installed and some were regular tractors and pickers were installed at dealers. There is a demand for the high clearance tractors that have been converted back to forward travel for show tractors. Back in sixtys or so many of the high clearance tractors were used for spray tractors after pickers were removed. Other than the X code on serial plate I have never seen any special markings and the tractors with dealer installed pickers will not have cotton picker X code.

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NDS

02-11-2007 05:24:40




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 18:52:45  
One sure sign for an ex cotton picker tractor is 1/2 inch holes in brake and clutch pedal shafts about 4 inches down from foot pad. The holes were for rods from pedals from remote operators platform.



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CNKS

02-10-2007 19:04:50




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 18:52:45  
MV's/Super MV's came with a wide front, Cotton picker tractors were also high clearance and came with a single front. I imagine they will interchange, but I have never seen either up close. There were only 245 Super MV's produced. They bring a lot of money restored, I see no reason to convert a Super MV to the Super M configuration, as it will kill the value.



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montanaelkhunter

02-10-2007 19:21:40




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to CNKS, 02-10-2007 19:04:50  
I think that it could be a cotton picker taken apart. I know that the high crops have a V on the tag, but I have no idea what a cotton picker tractor would have on the tag. I am sure you are correct and they will interchange, but those axles are hard to find now. I passed on a MDV last year and wished I had not now. Thanks for the information.



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D Slater

02-11-2007 05:30:58




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 19:21:40  
By convertible, I think they may be refering to some tractors that were set up to run backwards, operator facing rear. To switch back to regular operation one step was to remove the geared drop housings from end of rear axle and a axle was left to put wheels back on. After the gear drops were off tractor would go forward in 1 trough 5 without any changes inside transmission.If this is what you have and converted the flanges to bolt drops on will still be present on axle housings. There not MV tractors. Im sure some fellows from the land of dixie can correct me or add more.

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NDS

02-11-2007 10:10:20




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to D Slater, 02-11-2007 05:30:58  
You are correct on high drum pickers on low drum picker tractors were reversed by flipping ring gear to oppasite side of pinion this is where 2 hole rear frame cover came in as shifter had to be moved to clear ring gear. To get high drum picker tractor to go foward in gear 1-5 with drops in place you use reversing kit that is used on low drum actually reversing tractor twice.



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CNKS

02-10-2007 19:30:41




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 19:21:40  
I believe a cotton harvester tractor from the factory will have an X20 suffix following the serial # or perhaps simply an F or G. However, I have read that many of them were dealer/farmer conversions, those might not have the suffix.



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montanaelkhunter

02-10-2007 19:36:25




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to CNKS, 02-10-2007 19:30:41  
That is great to know. If it is a MV I will start searching for an axle. I guess I will find out tuesday



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Wardner

02-10-2007 21:46:55




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 Re: Farmall Super MV in reply to montanaelkhunter, 02-10-2007 19:36:25  
If it is a cotton picker, somewhere on the tractor you might find something like "M-12-H". The quickest way to differentiate a cotton picker pile of parts from a MV pile is to look at the final drives. Gear drive is cotton picker. Roller chain drive is highcrop. Cotton pickers also have a rear frame cover with two holes for the gear shifter. They would look like the covers on a 400, 450, 560.

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