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Question I've been wrestling with...

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Mike CA

02-15-2007 09:07:19




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Hiya all. I haven"t been around because I haven"t had the money to do anything towards my "46 H at all. So, I"ve been bumming about when it comes to that subject. A couple of times I"ve considered just selling it and giving up on the idea of restoration. But, I haven"t caved yet.

Anyway, last couple of days I was thinking about the front end. I"ve always assumed I was going to replace the IH wide front with a narrow front. Reason why is because my Grandfather"s H was a narrow, and a narrow front has always meant "Farmall" to me. But now I don"t know. Does this tracotr have to be exactly like his? No. Is an original wide front end more collectable? Maybe. What would be easier to haul? I think the wide would be easier! I could put it on a standard car carrier, which would be lighter and cheaper to get, right? I"ve never seen a 3 track carrier, so I assumed I would have to get a flat bed, which are heavy and expensive.

Another thought I had was that I could sell the front end for $700-800 and use that money towards restoration. But I don"t know if that"s possible around here or not.

Anyway, our back yard is going to get started soon (the next money project I have) And then I have to buy and build shelves in the garage, and build a work bench... THEN we have to have a garage sale so I can get rid of a TON of stuff... all so that I have the room to actually bring this tractor home to start working on it. I really wanted to have it done by the summer so I could use it in parades and shows. But that isn"t going to happen, unfortunately.

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Brad in TX

02-16-2007 14:47:12




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Mike CA,

Hang in there and hang around. We've all gotten kinda down about our projects at one time or another, because they always seem to take longer and cost more than we anticipate. I agree with City-Boy McCoy, it doesn't matter if your current tractor is the one that gets restored or not, hang onto the dream and the memories of your grandfather. If now is not the right time (and I'm not sure there ever is a right time) to start this project and you need to sell the tractor, just don't sell the dream along with it. I don't have the money to restore my A right now and may not ever, but, I've got a rusty tractor that runs and is still fun to tinker with and brings back memories of me cutting hay on my grandads H when I was a kid, every time I look at it. Stick around your enthusiasm is missed.

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LarryIa

02-15-2007 17:54:57




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Mike, you can haul an H with a narrow front end on a car hauling trailer. I do it. It isn"t hard to make a ramp for the narrow front. I can tell you how I did it. But, you will need a truck to pull the trailer. Everyone needs a truck anyway! I pull my H safely with a car hauling trailer (trailer has brakes) and a 2004
Ford F-150 properly equipped. Don"t sound so discouraged. You have a treasured tractor, hang onto it! Larry.

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SDE

02-15-2007 14:39:12




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Mike, you have a dream. Keep the dream alive and give yourself the time to live that dream. Just like in the movie, "The Shawshank Redemption", Andy says to Red,"Hope is a good Thing". Hang on to it unless you have a family crisis and need the cash.
Good Luck



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IndianaRed

02-15-2007 12:26:54




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Dude, cut it out man. It ends up being a little more than you expected and now you"re ready to quit? You and I have similar backgrounds. I too was in the Navy, my grandfather ran Reds, and I always wanted one, but didn"t really know enough as I should to try to restore myself, or even a proper work space or storage area. That said, even after a failed semi overhaul, a complete overhaul at the machine shop, $2000 and still not back together yet, I have no inention of giving up. All the hard work and $$ invested will just make it that much sweeter the day she"s finally painted up pretty and running smoothly. Don"t care a wit about resell value, as my Grandad has been out and layed his hands upon mine, so it"s special now and won"t ever be sold.

I think you"d regret it more if you sold it than the pain of what it takes to get it the way you want it. Just my $.02 worth. Hope you stick it out. There"s lots of us out here in the same boat, if that helps any.

Brian

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Steven@AZ

02-15-2007 12:02:18




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
I've had two pretty much perfect condition wide fronts in the last 5 years or so. First one I sold through this website for $450, second one sold on eBay a few weeks ago for the same $450. Don't expect to get more than $500 to maybe $600 for yours - if it is in really good condition.

As for the time issue: I've been working on my H for about four years now. Still needs a new clutch, tin work, and paint. Probably new tires as well. For now it runs and it is useful.

My W-9 and A have been sitting in the exact same place for three years now. I started them up last spring and haven't had a chance to get to them since...

Be patient, the time will come when you will have the time and $$ to work on it. One thing I've learned from doing some buying and selling is that it usually costs more to buy back something you sold a while ago. (660 diesel, 600 diesel, 450 gas in my case)

Good luck!

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neblinc

02-15-2007 11:13:34




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Just because you are not working on your tractor does not mean you need to stay away from the forums.
I have had my 43H sitting outside for almost a year while I slave away on my building getting it finished.
I learn something new almost daily, and print and file away the info so when it is time for me to tear into it I will have most of the info I need right at my finger tips.
I am in no hurry to get mine done, I have no deadline, and I sure the heck won't have any money left after I get done with the shop.
There are plenty of things to work on that don't cost a dime except for your time, like stripping of the sheet metal, cleaning up 50+ years of grease & grime, etc.
So don't give up, hang out here and learn, and when the time comes you might even feel like you know all there is about an H ; )

Randy

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Mike CA

02-15-2007 11:54:17




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to neblinc, 02-15-2007 11:13:34  
I haven't avoided the forum. I've just been busy, so it hasn't been at the front of my mind. But I hear what you're sayin.



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City-Boy McCoy

02-15-2007 10:46:59




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Mike: Whether you sell or don't sell, just hold on to your dream of having a Farmall that reminds you of happy days with your grandfather. I started out buying a Super A. After I got it home and really figured out what it needed, I knew I would have WAY too much $ in it. So, I sold it. I bought another one which was a little better, and never even got started on it before a neighbor saw it and went nuts for it, so I sold it for a little gain. The third one (and the fourth one) were the best buys I made, as neither needed nearly as much in the way of maintenance. I had learned from my previous experiences, and I am happy with what I have now. So, if you sell, it does not mean you are out of the game.... Heck, I thought you said you found out your grandfather really had an M anyway; you might even find one of those. Just hang on to the dream - no matter what you decide. We miss you, boy! mike (FL)

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Mike CA

02-15-2007 11:52:36




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 02-15-2007 10:46:59  
My Grandfather had 2 M's and an H. The picture I had was of an M, but my Dad said the H looked almost identical.

I think an M would be too heavy, requiring me to buy a truck just to pull it. So, that's the main reason I've gone with the H.



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Glenn F.

02-15-2007 09:36:58




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
I would keep the tractor. Get it home when you can, and start chipping away at it. The project may well take years. I collect little parts and big parts as I can afford them, all the while doing no cost repairs and adjustments. Someday the whole plan will come together. I just got my DC CASE together last summer....It only took 18 years! In those 18 years, we had 3 children, moved/bought a house, etc. etc. I have never had a problem with a long range plan. The journey is just as sweet as the final destination.

Just some thoughts...Glenn F.

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georgeky

02-15-2007 09:28:19




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
Mike be patient, you have the rest of your life to work on that old tractor. I have the yard full of them that I plan to restore my self. some run and some dont, I use some of them to farm with and money is tight around here too. The wide front is not as nimble as a tricycle but they are more collectable as there were fewer of them made. Either way patience and determination will move mountains.Good Luck let us know how it goes.

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RustyFarmall

02-15-2007 09:20:34




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
That original wide front will get lots of attention at shows, and even if it isn't quite like the H you remember, once you get it running those memories will still be there. Holding off on the restoration until you have the money to do it all at once is probably a good idea. Pieces and parts do not get as easily lost that way, but at the same time, there is nothing wrong with accumulating a few of the parts that you know are needed as funding becomes available.

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dej(JED)

02-15-2007 09:14:03




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 Re: Question I've been wrestling with... in reply to Mike CA, 02-15-2007 09:07:19  
You could get the tractor running and sell it.
Put your money aside and wait until you get in a little better financial situation. There are a lot of H's around. I would think that your H would bring around $1500 to $2000 in running shape. That WF is kind of rare. Good Luck.



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