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Help with paint and primer for my 41 a

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1941 farmall a

02-16-2007 01:31:12




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Im am going to use the electorlysis for my hood and ever thing and i need to know what type of primer to use right now the 1941 farmall :A: is not runing im trying to get the pistions broke lose and i dont want the parts to rust after i get done with the electorlysis. Can any one tell me the name of the paint for my :A: and the # that way ill have it i woud like to use spray paint it woud make it a lot better for me but i can use the air gun im not needing a showroom paint job i just want it to look hafe way good. This is not to esey when your only 18 years old lol ive been bilding barb wire fence to get my money in about 3 4 weeks il have a really good job at a power plant. But thanks all for helping

Carson

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1941 farmall a boy

02-16-2007 17:52:44




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this is my pain



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1941 farmall a boy

02-16-2007 13:54:21




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
Hey I got my pic on the Tractor Photos page look like 1941 farmall a i cant get it on the form thow



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1941 farmall a boy

02-16-2007 15:20:51




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 13:54:21  
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i got the pic on the from need's lots of work



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1941 framall a boy

02-16-2007 13:36:20




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
how do you put pics on this form i was gonna try



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El Toro

02-17-2007 04:32:29




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 framall a boy, 02-16-2007 13:36:20  
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Send me an email for some help. Hal
Here's that Troy Bilt tiller I painted with PPG's
Omni paint.



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GeneMO

02-16-2007 12:21:34




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
You can probably get lots of opinions on this subject. I am a beginner also. I haven't painted with a spray gun since I was in high school 35 years ago and did a few welding projects. I am going to have to teach myself this spring to paint my Super H. I can tell you from going to tractor shows, that there are restored tractors there that have a 10 times better paint job on them than what the factory sent them out with.


Gene

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SuperA-Tx

02-16-2007 09:30:36




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
You can get most of the paint off with oven cleaner if theres any on there before you start the electorlysis. As far as the primer and paint go theres lots of differant choices but since you dont want to spend a lot of money I would go with either the Tractor Supply paint (International Harvestor Red) or the paint from Case (2150).

You mentioned that your wanting to use spray paint (rattle can), that is someting I think you need to rethink, let me tell you why.....

On the cast parts you can brush the paint or primer on, theres no big advantage to useing a spray gun for those parts. On your sheet metal parts such as the hood, grill, fenders, bettery box, and gas tank I would get a inexpensive siphon type paint spray gun from a hardware store and maybe borrow an air compressor and go that route. The air compressor can be a small one cause your not going to need lots of pressure, you might have to take a minute break every now and then to let it build pressure back up. In the end you will come out saving money because the rattle can paint is going to get expensive plus I just dont think the rattle can paint is as good. Siphon guns are easy to use so dont be afraid to try one.

For your A you wont need a lot of paint. Wont take a gallon of paint and probly a half gallon or less of primer.

OK, there are a few times where I do like the rattle can paint. A sandable primer from Tractor Supply by Plasti-Kote that is real good for those small jobs like bolt heads. I also like the heat resistant woodstove black (by Plasti-Kote) paint for the manifold and the heat resistant aluminum engine enamel (by Plasti-Kote) paint for the rims, gas cap, radiator cap, and muffler.

If you were close I would sure let you have some left over paint I have. Would even let you borrow the compressor and paint gun.

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1941 farmall a boy

02-16-2007 13:09:14




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-16-2007 09:30:36  
thanks allfor your help. I do have a spray gun and a aircompressor But thanks for teling me i can borrow it. All we have in this town is wallmart napa and bumper to bumper and a newhalled or what ever lol and the nerest Tractor Supply is a lil over an houer away ive painted the bumper on my truck with spray paint and it turnd out good look like u can put your hand thrue it but i messd up by puting 15 layer of paint on it lol. I saw the International Harvestor Red and it look'd way to dark but never know. One time i was trying to get some paint for my old 71 ford truck hear in this town and thay was saying its this one wich was way way way to dark my truck is a saddle brown not all most black. If i can get the parts primed ill be happy i cant make it look any worse then it is green moss growing on it.I just have no clue what to do hear i see all the Tractors on tv with this 300$ 600$ paint job and i woud love mine to be like that but there is no way i can ever do that. Can i put the Epoxy primer on it and leave it for aobut a year gonna probley take me that long to get it where i can drive it un less i wanna tie my horse up to it i cant even do that one really bad rim. If any one knows what to do just say im a lost little child right now lol. Thanks all for the help

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SuperA-Tx

02-16-2007 19:36:44




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 13:09:14  
I guess it depends on the final result you want, the price your willing to pay, how much time your willing to put into it, and how much experience you have.

If you want a "show quality" tractor then you probly need to go with something like PPG. If you want a middle of the raod quality then go with TS or Case paint.If you just want something on there then go with the rattle can paint.

Decide on the line of paint your going to use then just stick within that brand. After you get it primed then then you can do the final paint at a later date. There is a window where a bond between the two coats are better so you might want to read up on that depending on what line of paint you go with.

As for me I used the Tractor Supply paint and am happy with the results. Might use the 2150 from Case if I had it to do again because of the added UV protection.

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Dave from Texas

02-16-2007 07:16:37




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
Well I am 57 and one of my projects is a 46 A in the same shape. The money comes a lot easier at my age, but the work is the same. Fun at 18 and Fun at 57. The guys on this site are a great help and encourgement. Keep it alive!!!



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GordoSD

02-16-2007 06:43:26




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
It's my opinion that the grill, hood and gas tank should be as close to flawless as possible. To get them really straight and dent and rust free you need to: Sandblast them. Don't worry, that steel is 10 times thicker than autos and won/t be damaged.
IMMEDIATELY after blasting prime with epoxy primer.Now they are sealed against all moisture.
Then use basic auto primer surfacer, sanding between double/triple coats to get a perfect surface for painting. The IH 2150 with hardener can produce a beautiful finish if properly applied with a quality finish gun.

Gordo

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gene bender

02-16-2007 05:11:17




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to 1941 farmall a boy, 02-16-2007 01:31:12  
You can get primer in a spray bomb to keep the parts from rusting after getting them cleaned. You better get your engine torn down before worring about paint as the motor mite need more money that you want to put into the whole tractor. Pull the engine,take the crank out then you can press out the no-good sleeves and pistons then check the crank to see if its ok or needs a regrind.



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GordoSD

02-16-2007 14:58:37




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 Re: Help with paint and primer for my 41 a in reply to gene bender, 02-16-2007 05:11:17  
Rattle can primer, and primer surfacer are NOT waterproof. As a little test, just go pour some water on that primer, and then wet sand it. You will see that the water soaks into the primer like a sponge. The newer epoxy primers ARE just as good a seal as paint. On the other hand, There isn't any reason to prep the metal, and then leave it for a year without painting. Once it's cleaned, bodywork done, primed and block sanded, 90% of the work is done.

Gordo

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