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Cmore

07-01-2007 06:42:39




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Is 9,900 hours a lot for a german diesel 706?? It's got a turbo, seems to be in good shape overall, but starts with little bump of ether. doesn't start too well without ether. Is she shot?? Thanks, Cmore




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Bradford

07-02-2007 17:10:57




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
I can't find the sweet spot on my 826. Needs less than a second of ether to kick it off.

How do you do it? Move the kill cable while cranking or crank and move a it a little over and over?

It runs a lot better every time a put a couple of hours on it. Previous owner said he put 100 hours over 10 years on it.

My only problem is finding something to pull that will pin the ears back!!!



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Jimmy King

07-02-2007 13:45:36




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
I have a 706 and a 756 both with the German 310 the shut off cable on the 706 will snap right back in the sweet spot when you kill it and in will start right up with out either down to about 35 with the block heater still no either. The the 756 will not start with out either untill it is very hot out I have trouble finding the sweet spot on the fuel shut off because it doesn"t have the right shup off cable on it. I ask the tech at a diesel pump shop once about the sweet spot and he said That Robert Bosch Pump is throwing every ounce of fuel it can throw. My 756 only has 3 or 4 hundred hrs. on a major over haul.

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chuck46

07-01-2007 20:42:38




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
Hi, I have a 756 with 9600 hours, has had a turbo for more than 8000, starts and runs good, uses a quart of oil in about 35 hrs. Good luck, Chuck



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Larry in Mo

07-01-2007 13:31:42




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
Before you write it off you might check the valve tappet clearance. Valves not closing tight on a deisel can make them hard to start, even if every thing else is up to snuff.LE



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gmd

07-01-2007 10:54:06




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
probably a dumb question, but did you pull the kill cable out about a third of the way? it sort of acts as a primer and mine absolutely will not start without it. however when its pulled out a little bit it fires right up.



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wolfman

07-01-2007 18:18:02




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to gmd, 07-01-2007 10:54:06  
Good point, gmd. A neighbor had a good 826 and used either even in the summertime. One day I pulled the advance and it started quicker than he could reach for an either can. Never saw such an amazed look on an adults face as he said howjadodat.



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MN Scott

07-01-2007 19:29:23




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to wolfman, 07-01-2007 18:18:02  
I have a neighbor that bought a 826 last year to. He stopped in one day and the 826 was brought up. He said it was the poorest starting tractor he had ever run. I asked him if he was putting the kill cable in the start position. I got that blank look too. I explaned to him how to start a German diesel, he'd never heard of the start position before. I saw him a few days later in town and he thanked me for informing him how to start a kraut diesel. It now starts right off down to 30 degrees with out either or being plugged in. Makes me wonder how many german's get the either treatment that don't need it because the operator's just don't know how to start them.

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the tractor vet

07-01-2007 08:39:45




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
Like others have said with out knoweing the history of the tractor as if and when it was ever down for and overhaul you could vary well be looken at a total rebuild that can run you into more the twice the asken price of the tractor . With that many hours on her there is noway that i would ever think of doing a IN CHASSIE overhaul , that engine would have to come out and have a complet going thru with line bore magnfluxen decking cam bearings crank checked from one end to the other rods rebuilt head rebuilt then the injection system gone thru . Then that leaves the rest of the tractor that i am sure needs work.

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steveormary

07-01-2007 07:13:01




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 Re: 706 with German Diesel in reply to Cmore, 07-01-2007 06:42:39  
Cmore;

Depends on what kind of care it has had. Mine had about7400 hrs on it when I sold it. It started and ran good and had plenty of power yet. Mine had a lower tank hose heater that I used alot. Very seldom used either. It was a good tractor.

steveormary



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A. Bohemian

07-01-2007 08:09:34




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 SEEMS to Be? in reply to steveormary, 07-01-2007 07:13:01  
In my limited PERSONAL experience, a Diesel tractor that needs ether to start is usually on its last legs, and needs ether to start because it has BAD COMPRESSION, which doesn't get the air/fuel charge hot enough to fire in a cold engine anymore.

There ARE lesser, more easily fixed problems, like fuel system problems, that can also cause the tractor to need ether. You need to KNOW which you are looking at here to know if this tractor is worth buying (unless you want a rebuild project).

For some people, a tractor is just another toy, an acquisition that comes at that point in life when several thousand dollars isn't that big a deal anymore and anyway, you need to make that several thousand dollar purchase to protect an investment worth several hundred thousand (your new country place).

My family's background, however, is such that I don't know if I'll EVER be able to purchase a vehicle of any kind without viewing it as a major purchase.

And, a major purchase means learning EVERYTHING I POSSIIBLY CAN before making the purchase.

You say the motor "seems to be in good shape." You don't sound very sure! Have you done a compression test?

I get ridiculed by some for suggesting it, but I've never bought a vehicle from a stranger without either making a compression test myself or having someone else do it.

A compression test can be as simple as pointing the vehicle down hill in a lower gear and seeing how quickly it gains momentum, or as complex as doing a thourough and systemactic compression and leakdown test.

If you don't know how to do these tests yourself, you can hire a mechanic to do them for you. It's done all the time; and sometimes a seller who understandably doesn't want Joe Tirekicker to start taking a wrench to the tractor will happily let a professional mechanic do the tests.

I consider an hour or two of labor by a professional mechanic a SMALL price to pay for the peace of mind of knowing I didn't get rooked; but I am sure we'll hear from others who feel differently.

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GeneMO

07-02-2007 14:22:04




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 Re: SEEMS to Be? in reply to A. Bohemian, 07-01-2007 08:09:34  
We bought our German 706 new in 1967 or 1968. It has never had ether used on it. We always use the block heater in cold weather and as others have mentioned you have to pull out the kill cable to "choke" it. It has 8 thousand some hours on it and still starts and runs good. I does have and injector sticking as it misses for about 30 seconds when cold.


I agree with the compression test.


Gene

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