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za766

07-05-2007 14:38:00




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I have a Super A that runs good when it is first started and until it has warmed up about 20-30 minutes. Then it will sputtered and die under any kind of load. Wait about 15-20 seconds and it will start right up and idle just fine, it will run well again under load for about 5-10 minutes and then sputter and die under load. If you depress the clutch and take the load off it will idle ok, but put it under load and it will die. I think it is something with the carburetor and I checked that it was getting gas to the carburetor and it appeared to be getting gas just fine. Can someone give me some trouble shoooting tips to try to determine what the problem is? Thanks for any advice you can give me as I am not the greatest mechanic.

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Hugh MacKay

07-06-2007 08:42:13




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 Re: Super A troubles in reply to za766, 07-05-2007 14:38:00  
za766: I'm siding with old and the gas idea. Coil problems take longer than 15 to 20 seconds to correct the situation. Probably more like 20 minutes.

I think gas flow is being restricted somewhere. I'd first loosen the fuel line where enters the carb, if you have good flow there it is within the carb, if not it is at the sediment bowl. I've had rust flakes from the tank almost completely plug the stem from tank to bowl. When it did, my tractor acted much like yours. Enough fuel getting through for idle but no power.

Having said that the elbo going into your carb has a screen that can plug giving the same effect. These usually don't give much trouble unless the screen at the bowl is missing or damaged.

I guess the float setting within the carb could do the same, however my experience with that one is too much gas going in.

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Andy Motteberg

07-05-2007 18:41:37




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 Re: Super A troubles in reply to za766, 07-05-2007 14:38:00  
It sounds to me like a bad ignition coil or spark plugs. Check the plugs first. If the plugs are not the problem, try a new coil.



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old

07-05-2007 14:56:54




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 Re: Super A troubles in reply to za766, 07-05-2007 14:38:00  
Gas to the carb but does it get into the carb as it should. Pull the drain plug out of the bottom of the carb and let it run for 5 minutes or so. Do you have a good steady flow of gas?? If you don't then you have some dirt/junk in the carb and it needs cleaned out. If it does flow well then pull the air intake tube off start it up and with it running put your hand over the carb and pull it off just before it dies. Do that a few times and see if that makes it run better. Thats a trick to pull dirt etc. out of the main jet and some times will fix that type of problem. You can also pull the main jet out if adjustable and spray carb cleaner into it with the drain plug out or if nonadjustable pull the mainjet plug and spray it out. Not likely to be the coil because if the coil is going bad it would have to sit for a couple hours before it would start again

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glennster

07-05-2007 14:45:21




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 Re: Super A troubles in reply to za766, 07-05-2007 14:38:00  
could be a bad ignition coil, when it dies, pull the coil wire and check for a good blue spark. if that checks out ok, i'd go to the fuel system as it sounds like its starving for gas. when it starts acting up, pull the choke a little at a time and see if it runs any better. if you have an inline aftermarket fuel filter, take that off. check the fuel tank for junk in there, clean the sediment bowl and screen, check to see if there is a screen at the fuel line where the fitting goes in the carburetor too. my farmall b would conk out intermittently, turns out there was a soy bean in the fuel tank, it would roll around and then plug the line.

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A. Bohemian

07-05-2007 19:14:39




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 Either...or. in reply to glennster, 07-05-2007 14:45:21  
From your description, it could be either bad spark caused by an ignition component overheating (likely the coil or condensor), or crud in the fuel system (likely the tank).

Statistically, rust in the fuel tank is MUCH more common than a bad coil, especially if the tractor is kept outside.

So, start by physically examining the inside of the tank for rust. A flashlight and a dentist's mirror help. You can also check the sediment bowl; if there are fine particles of rust in the bowl, the odds are good there are larger ones in the tank.

If the fuel system checks out ok, try the following. Get a plug and gap it all the way out to 3/16". Pull a spark line and pop it on the plug. Clamp the plug to a good grounding surface and crank away. You should see a nice, fat blue spark. I'd probably take the time to check all four, but only remove ONE line at a time, so you don't mess up the firing order.

Keep the plug with you. The next time the tractor stalls, hop off and IMMEDIATELY and check the spark with the 3/16" plug. If it is yellowish and weak after stalling, but returns to normal after your self-described 15-20 seconds, it is at least possibly an electrical problem; the coil and the condensor are the most likely suspects, but it could be points, rotor, a loose connection...

Please let us know what you find. This is an interesting one.

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