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Types of Rear Rims for an H

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Eastsider

07-11-2007 17:54:51

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Hi all! I am in the process of gathering up the things I need to restore my grandfather's H. One thing I need to do is decide which rear rims to use. I could use some opinions. I have the original split rim 36" style that overall are in really decent condition...a little sand blasting and some paint and they will be good. The mating surfaces are excellent, and the tire guy said they were about the best undamaged ones he had seen. I purchased a parts tractor with 38" rims on it...the only thing that is odd is that those rims are a single drop design in the center...did IH use a single drop style of rim? If so, were they only used on the earlier models? All my other tractors have the double drop type. The H is a 1951 model...The 36 inch splits would be original, and kind of interesting looking, but the 38s would be a little better looking, at least to my vision of an H....Any thoughts????

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Mark

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CNKS

07-11-2007 19:30:00

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to Eastsider, 07-11-2007 17:54:51

I think you have rims off an earlier tractor. The rims you mention were used until SN 230692 (1946) if I'm reading my parts book right. Do a parts search on www.caseih.com and see if the ones pictured are what you have. I don't think many H's were sold that way. I have never seen one with those rims.

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Mike CA

07-11-2007 19:23:23

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to Eastsider, 07-11-2007 17:54:51

I'd say you do a little decision making and decide what you want to do with this tractor, and what it's for. If it is truly going to be an accurate restoration of your Grandfather's machine, then keep it as original as possible. Plus, like was said, the 36" are probably pretty rare. But if this H is going to be your pride and joy, or if you are going to work with it, then I would do what makes you happy. If that means 38" rims, then so be it.

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Hugh MacKay

07-11-2007 19:05:21

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to Eastsider, 07-11-2007 17:54:51

Mark: I think you'll find the 36" is the rare and unusual rim for the H, especially as late as 51. The single drop 38" were the most common at least in my area, in fact I've never seen an H on 36" rubber. I realize they were common in some parts of the country.

When you say your other tractors have double drop rims, I assume you are talking about double bead giving 4 positions of rims in relation to wheel, right or wrong? If that is what your talking about those double beads did not appear until Supers in most models.

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BOBM25

07-12-2007 08:58:15

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-11-2007 19:05:21

Hey Hugh, did the Super's really have a double bevel rim option? My MTA has double bevel rear rims. The cast centers have a C code on mine though, so they are not the ones that came originally on the tractor, I'm sure. But if they were at least an option it makes me feel a little better about having them on my tractor as I am in the process of doing a pretty meticulous restoration of it now. Plus it gives me something to roll it around on while I hunt for Z code wheels.

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Hugh MacKay

07-12-2007 15:22:16

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Re: What I do know for certain in reply to BOBM25, 07-12-2007 08:58:15

Bob: My dad bought a new H in 51 with old type 38" rims, and he bought a new 300 in 55 with double bead rims. The other thing I do know about IH, all those little things we believed, happened at model change, actually happened as old stock ran out.

Take the Super A for example, there were more changes during the 7 year production run, (numbers of changes) than the entire 25 year production run of 100, 130 and 140 combined. That will cause some head scratching tonight.

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Hugh MacKay

07-12-2007 15:01:10

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to BOBM25, 07-12-2007 08:58:15

Bob: I'm not 100% certain, however I briefly owned a SM I bought from the original owner and it had double bead. I also bought a front end off a SH that had been traded in by the original owner and it had double bead rear rims. That is really all I have to go by. I have seen this subject on here before, and some of the folks involved are still around here. I'm sure if you post the direct question, there will be an answer.

Oh, there was one other, I drove 120 miles one day to look at a Stage II SH. It turned out being what I call a piece tractor. It was stage II front end, however it had band brakes and 40s style 38" tires. He kicked me off the property before I chance to check codes.

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Tom Windsor

07-11-2007 18:47:29

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to Eastsider, 07-11-2007 17:54:51

I would LOVE to give my opinion on the subject. But, I don't have any idea what you are talking about. Can you post a picture of these split rims??

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Eastsider

07-12-2007 10:35:02

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Re: Types of Rear Rims for an H in reply to Tom Windsor, 07-11-2007 18:47:29

Thanks for the replies, guys! I will have to see if I can get some pictures this weekend and then figure out how to get them on here! On these rear rims, what I meant by the double drop is that it has more of a flat "step" down to the part that touches the wheel hub. The single drop rims I have just slope from the outer bead to the center, there isn"t a flat "step". Those 36" 2 piece split rims are unique, that is for sure. I know that the very first H"s came out with them, so who knows how the tractor came to have them...I know grandpa never bought any tractors new! I"ll have to get some clean up done on both sets and see which way is the best to go... My parts book lists them as options all the way through production, so maybe it always had them.

Mark

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