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Kevin H

07-13-2007 11:00:47




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I just recently became owner of a run-down, non-operational Farmall M, but it is located at our lake house, about 150 miles away. Anybody dealt with that?? I'd like to restore it, but it is too far away to work on it too often. Any recommendations on transporting/hauling the tractor to my current house?

I think the restoration process would go MUCH quicker if it was here. Let me know - I appreciate it...

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don g

07-15-2007 07:47:39




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
ive been driving a 22wheeler and ag equipment for over 30 years.in illinois if u are hauling a rolling load u must have 4 individual chains to secure your load.you probably could get by with hauling tractor behind a half ton truck and a dual axle trailer rated for 7000#.you are maxing every piece of equipment out by doing this and tell me, is it worth the risk to yourself.your tractor,and maybe the minivan full of kids u might kill if something were to happen?

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NDS

07-15-2007 09:36:17




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to don g, 07-15-2007 07:47:39  
I agree that heavier truck would be better but to put things in perspective which is more dangerous a light truck slightly overloaded and being driven very carsfully or the big rig cowboys that I see every time i get on Interstste. Every time I travel any distance on interstate I see heavy trucks within 6 feet (300 feet is legal requirement) of back bumper of small car/SUV/van (often full of kids) that is running speed limit or better, some of the cowboys think that everyone should make way for them like they were driving emergency vehicle. Have driven heavy trucks for 50 years and anyone that tries to say that the cowboys can stop as quick as car or out of touch. FHWA is preparing to issue new rules for brakes on heavy trucks and OEM brake suppliers are having hard time meeting specs and the new mandated stopping distances are still not near as good as car.

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NDS

07-14-2007 08:11:42




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
Another consideration that I have not seen mentioned is that if you have late model 1 ton truck with a GVWR of 12,000 lbs+ and a trailer with a GVWR of 14,000 lbs+ you are in CDL class. It does not matter what truck and trailer actually weighs they will go by combined GVWR ratings and if you are checked and do not have Class A CDL you will be put out of service on the spot and someone with proper license will have to move truck. Ther are some exemptions for farm plated vehicles and if you can prove that you are not engaged in any type commercial activity.

Class A CDL..Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 lbs or more provide the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 lbs.

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John-Paul T

07-14-2007 23:32:36




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to NDS, 07-14-2007 08:11:42  
guess we were lucky then either way, cause my buddy that hauled it drives rigs hehe. That would have been a quick stop LOL.



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glennster

07-13-2007 18:30:23




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
if you dont have a truck and trailer with the capacity to handle the tractor, and if you have never towed anything before, hire a flat bed wrecker to haul it for you, its a lot easier, they have the insurance and in the long run its a lot cheaper. around here, flatbed charge is 100-125 for the hook up and load, and 1.00 mile, so your looking at 150.00 for mileage, 125 for the hookup, 275.00 and you got her home no problems. check with some of the tow outfits in your area, they may have a truck taking something out near the tractor, then they can have a load on when they come back.

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the tractor vet

07-13-2007 18:21:41




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
well as for me i would never ever thing about usen a car trailer behind a 1/2 ton pick up to haul anything bigger then maybe a farmall C thru a 240 and only if both axels had brakes and at least C range tires. and haulen and M nothing less then a 3/4 ton with a gooseneck . Already been down the road with the bumper pull trailers and after having a gooseneck there ain't anybody with enough money to get me to go back to a bumper pull . Back when i was buying and selling tractors and equipment i put a ton of miles on my old F350 and my 28 ft. gooseneck running over 4 states and it was as colse to drive a semi as one could get as far as handling and stopping power.

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rockerscraper1

07-13-2007 16:21:18




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
if you dont have the right truck and trailer maybe check with one of your local construction companys all they need is lowboy and skidstere to drag her on good luck



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NDS

07-13-2007 14:27:19




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
The Alabama DOT has accident statistics posted for 2005 out of 143,948 accidents posted improper load size was the primary contribiting circumstance in 74 accidents, vehicle wgt/hgt/length 74 accidents (also). on the other hand following to close was listed for 15,074 accidents, driver not in control 19,576, accidents, misjudgeing stopping distance 15,435 accidents, failing to yield right of way 22,789 accidents. In my opinion how you drive is much more important than what you drive.

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RustyFarmall

07-13-2007 12:39:53




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
I just hope like heck that I never encounter some of you folks out on the road while you are hauling your tractors. Just because you get the job done does mean that is the right way to do it, and if a highway patrolman or D.O.T. officer sees you hauling a 7,000# tractor on a 7,000# trailer pulled behind a 1/2 ton pick-up, he will politely ask you to park that rig right where it is and take a ride with him. And he may not be all that polite about it.

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NDS

07-13-2007 16:16:55




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-13-2007 12:39:53  
Rusty I have been pulling camper trailers for over 40 years and it is a well known fact that a large percentage of the RV tow vehicles are over their ratings have pulled through about 40 states and have seen thousands of tow vhicles that were obviously overloaded buy have never seen one pulled over for being overweight. In some states vehicle must be registered for total weight of tow vehicle and trailer and have heard of some being ticketed for that.

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RustyFarmall

07-13-2007 17:47:01




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to NDS, 07-13-2007 16:16:55  
This is and has been a common complaint from professional truckers for many years now. RVs and campers are not subject to the same laws and regulations that truckers must comply with, even though most of those motor homes are just as large, and weigh almost as much as a big rig.



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NDS

07-13-2007 18:06:27




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-13-2007 17:47:01  
Have pulled across scales both fixed and portables in commercial trucks hundreds of times from 1 ton hot shots to 18 wheelers in probaly at least 20 states and have been pulled around for inspection numerous times and have never seen anyone look at data plate on truck or trailer.



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L.C.Gray

07-15-2007 09:03:52




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to NDS, 07-13-2007 18:06:27  
I durn sure have...

I had Tx DOT impound my 48 ft drop deck once because the VIN tag had been scraped off long ago by a careless forklift operator. All 4 corners of the tag and the rivets were in place, but there was a deep rusty scrape right through the middle.

I was informed that anything on the road without a clearly readable VIN tag was "seizable". My trailer was held for investigation for 5 days until they could get the manufacturer to provide them with the "confidential VIN numbers" that are hidden in various places during munufacture and verify it was actually the trailer we held title to. The DOT further ordered a new tag from the manufacturer for us and would not let us put that trailer back in service until the new tag was "permanently attatched".

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NDS

07-15-2007 16:17:53




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to L.C.Gray, 07-15-2007 09:03:52  
I do not doubt that. Just different officers at different times I quess I have been told to come in and bring my paperwork including tractor and trailer registration several times but no one went out to verify anything. Outside inspections have always been safety related and they were not interested with registration and such. Do not rember ever being pulled around in Texas though.



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georgeky

07-13-2007 13:41:36




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-13-2007 12:39:53  
DOT won't say a word to you in KY. There are no regulations on farm trailers under 10,000 lb gross load. You can even move a mobile home down the road with a tractor as long as it is being used for storage or anything besides a home. It is the other guy that is in a big hurry that you need to beware of. I am not by any means saying this is the best, I am just saying I have done it out of necessity. A 5000 lb M is not to hard to haul with any good half ton truck.

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John-Paul T

07-13-2007 13:34:04




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-13-2007 12:39:53  
I HEAR THAT!

We towed ours last month about 20 miles. Used a 1 ton truck and a 14,500lb dual axle surge brake trailer. Rental with chains it was only $40 for the day. We maxed it out on both trailer and truck. Drove 25 mph the whole way. Hey it was safe that way any faster and she could have jack knifed us! When we got home our little 2500 tractor had the trailer wheels so hot I leaned against it to take off one of the chain tensioners and it was hot enough to burn my leg (not literally but made me jump back).

Things to remember the lower the better. But not so low the trailer tounge scrapes ground! If the front end of truck comes up too much you will catch air and you drive like your driving a huge boat. ITs drifty big time even at 20mph. STOP if thats the case and either shift the load on trailer if possible or get a large 3 axle trailer etc.

Ours just fit trailer the back tires rubbed the fenders of the hauler.

Oh and roll back = bad idead. No roll back here would do it. Hauling ourselves was option 2. They said roll back is too high and tilt too much it could roll the tractor. They all refused to do it that way, but would with trailer. Im talking towing co's not some guy with a truck.

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ScottyHOMEy

07-13-2007 13:01:55




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-13-2007 12:39:53  
AMEN!!

I remember an article about trailering tractors that I thought was on here, written by a fellow that thinks like you and me. Wanted to link it but couldn't find it.

It makes no difference whether it's folks hauling "hobby" tractors or working tractors (landscapers are among the worst and the best), I see a load once or twice a week that just scares the bejavers out of me. Trailers out of balance and running all over the road, chains or straps just flapping in the breeze, tires with sidewalls that look like a turtle shell, trailer jacks draging the ground (not because they didn't raise them) . . . you name it.

I'm gonna look some more for that article, and will post a link to it if I can find it. There was some carping in it, but if you could get past that, it also was full of sound advice about trailer capacity and condition, securing the load, and loading and getting it down the road safely.

Bottom line, safety trumps expense and convenience every time.

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MN Mike

07-13-2007 13:23:52




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 07-13-2007 13:01:55  
Your concerns are taken very seriously but I'll humbly insert that the most dangerous thing when it comes to hauling is the nut between the seat and the steering wheel. bigger trucks and trailers can help but if the guy doing the hauling is acting like an idiot there is just no hardware to correct it. hauling any load means you have to be aware that stopping distances are longer, cornering isn't the same, etc.

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RustyFarmall

07-13-2007 17:42:51




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to MN Mike, 07-13-2007 13:23:52  
Think real hard about what you just said about the nut between the seat and the steering wheel. Wouldn't that nut be the very same nut that loaded the trailer in the first place? I will also point out the fact that the driver of the vehicle is legally responsible for making sure that the load is properly secured, is not overweight, and is within size restrictions.



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ScottyHOMEy

07-13-2007 12:38:02




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
Kevin, if you don't have a trailer and sufficient chains (not straps) of your own, and don't know anyone who can lend you such a rigging, I'd strongly suggest looking for a rollback to do it for you. It could turn out cheaper than than renting a trailer and buying the chains you'll need, or even buying the chains to use on your friend's trailer.

First, you don't say if it's a wide or narrow front. Most car haulers that you can rent are open-bottomed, intended for cars and have no place for a narrow front to drive to the front (or rear) of the trailer. They also often have expanded metal tracks for the outside wheels, and you'd likely damage them if you bound the tractor down on its's chains as tight as you should. If you do decide to go the rental route, just be aware that I sat at a U-Haul counter for a long time one day while they tried to explain to a fellow why they wouldn't rent one of their car-haulers to him to haul a tractor. Theirs just aren't built for it.

The others are right about setting your rear wheels in, and you should plan on doing that at the remote site if you plan to haul it yourself. My gooseneck is a full 102" wide deckover, but my tagalong is just 82" between the wheel wells, and I have to watch things closely putting my BN on it with the wheels just two steps out.

You'd be right at the margins for weight on a 7,000 lb. trailer. Mine weighs a shade over 2k all by itself. A bare-bones M weighs a little over 5k. If you're talking wide-front, anything like wheel weights . . . you'd be pushing the limits on a trailer of that type that's in good shape (tires, brakes . . .) even if you allow for tongue weight lightening up the axles.

And I'm thinking a minmum of three chains -- Grade 70 with hooks -- will set you back a couple hundred or more, at which point the rollback starts looking even better.

If you do take it on yourself, be sure you bind the tractor down on the trailer in both directions, so it can't shift either way. You can run the chains away from the tractor's ends toward the ends of the trailer, or you can run the chains toward the middle of the tractor from either end, if that works better with the trailer you use. Either way, just make sure you have enough chain, and that it's as tight as you can get it. And check it aftr you've gone ten miles -- tighten up if it needs it..

Not trying to be a spoilsport. I had my first tractor brought home sixty miles on a rollback. As I acquired more tractors and had more occasion to move them around, I got the trailers that I now have, first the tagalong and, later, the gooseneck.

And I hope you have the kind of success and fun with yours that I had with mine, the kind that leads you to see it being worth the expense to get the trailer and rigging to haul it around, if that's what you ultimately want to do.

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Nat 2

07-13-2007 12:08:51




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
You can haul an M on a car hauler with a 1/2 ton truck, but there are caveats:

1. Tires can NOT be "loaded." No fluid.
2. No wheel weights. Take 'em off, leave 'em in the garage. Putting them in the truck doesn't buy you anything. Weight is the issue both here and with the fluid in the tires.
3. The rear wheels must be dished in. You can't get the tractor narrow enough to fit on a car hauler otherwise.
4. You may even want to consider removing other heavy items like the battery (probalby no good anyway), the belly pump (another ~100lbs that can be hauled in another vehicle on a separate trip), and even the belt pulley gearbox. Every pound you take off the tractor will make your trip safer and more comfortable.

A plain old bare-bones M should weigh around 5500lb. That's about the maximum you'd want on a car hauler with a 1/2 ton truck, and then you better take it slow and make sure the trailer brakes are good and reliable. A weight distribution hitch for the trailer is a must.

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georgeky

07-13-2007 12:17:49




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Nat 2, 07-13-2007 12:08:51  
I hauled my 400 and 450 with fluid and weights on a car hauler pulled with a 1978 Chevy 1/2 ton. No problems with them. It was a good load though.



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little john

07-13-2007 12:02:41




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
And another option is to look at the Hauling Schedule at the left of the page. I had an H hauled 800 miles and the hauler did a fine job.....that tractor was tied down so it couldn't budge.



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old

07-13-2007 11:50:26




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
I have hualed an M on a 16 foot car trailor behind my 1/2 ton chev and did just fine. The fun part is loading it up. You will need some way to pull it on.



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Kevin H

07-13-2007 15:35:00




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to old, 07-13-2007 11:50:26  
You got that right! I have a Duramax Diesel 2500 GMC Sierra, so my major issue will be the trailer, and even bigger issue will be getting the inoperable tractor on it!



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georgeky

07-13-2007 22:30:59




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 15:35:00  
I use a Red Devil come a long to pull them up on the trailer when another tractor isn't around. It works very well, but is some work on you though. I have also done it the way Old described. I have hauled my M all over the country on a 16 foot tag a long 7000 lb trailer and it works great. I don't see why anyone would have to have a 14000 lb trailer for 5000 lb tractor. I guess you would need a 28,000 lb trailer for a 10,000 lb tractor.

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old

07-13-2007 17:31:17




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 15:35:00  
One way you can do that is. Pull all the plugs out. Then stick a 12 volt battery in it. Put it in first gear and hit the starter button. Don't hold it for more then a minute at a time. It will crawl right up if you do that and not hurt a thing. I have loaded 10 plus tractor that way and even a crawler or 2 doing that. If the brakes work thats a plus. If they don't if you have help have them throw a block under the rear tires to hold when you have to let off of the start just to make sure it doesn't try to roll back on you

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RustyFarmall

07-13-2007 11:15:37




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
that tractor will need to be transported on a trailer with a minimum of 14,000# capacity, and the bed will need to be a minimum of 8 feet wide. Unless the M has the wheels reversed, it will not fit between the fenders of a car hauling trailer. If you really want to make it easy, find someone with a roll-back flatbed truck equipped with a winch. It might cost a bit, but hiring the job out to someone who has the proper equipment will prove to be the best deal in the long run.

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georgeky

07-13-2007 11:13:54




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
Kevin, they can be hauled with a 7000 lb traler and a half ton truck. You should be able to rent a trailer for the day at trailer sales lots. Most of these trailers are not hardly wide enough, but you can turn one wheel around on the tractor(dished in) and it will fit between the fenders. Or just hire someone with a trailer to do it for you.



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?? edss

07-13-2007 21:27:33




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to georgeky, 07-13-2007 11:13:54  
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I rented this from United Rentals. Hope this helps. I did have to connect the trailer brakes because they had them disconnected. You will need those.

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Wardner

07-13-2007 17:05:00




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to georgeky, 07-13-2007 11:13:54  
Another way to load is to drive over the front with the trailer disconnected from the truck. I did this with a 650D and a U-Haul. I pulled it about 500 miles and across the US/Canadian border.



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MN Mike

07-13-2007 11:13:09




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
usually the biggest hurdle to bringing home a non-running tractor is the wife :)

Most 1/2 ton trucks should be able to handle the weight if you have a good trailer with brakes. Chain it down with load binders and you should be fine. I think an M runs around 5-6000 pounds. Others will correct me if I'm wrong.



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Tallperson

07-13-2007 11:11:07




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Kevin H, 07-13-2007 11:00:47  
I regularly haul my SM with the loader and blade, doing cleanup jobs for folks. I have a 24 foot drop tail gooseneck trailer that I pull with my F-350 powerstroke. No problem... A straight M would be lighter.. Any good car hauling trailer should handle your tractor no problem. Tie it down good, and make sure the trailer brakes work. Have enough pick-up truck to pull and control the load.. 150 miles is no big trip unless your crossing Wolfcreek pass... Good luck Tallperson

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maplehillfrm

07-13-2007 20:52:18




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Tallperson, 07-13-2007 11:11:07  
now thats a fun road, I was up there many years ago with my tractor trailer at the very top is a beautiful waterfall, I still remember the switch backs coming down, I would say it was early spring as the moose and elk where all over the place coming off the mountside, nice country out that way, but man you better be on your toes, I would actually not want to be on that road with some of the things I hear people hauling tractors with, but that I guess that brings out the trucker in me,,

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HENRY E NC

07-13-2007 12:36:00




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 Re: Transporting tractor in reply to Tallperson, 07-13-2007 11:11:07  
I haul my regular M on a 5000lb trailer with a Ford van 350 with a 351 CI engine. Does well except long long grades it gets down to 3rd gear and I also have brakes on the trailer. The trailer was widened to take the M though. 150 miles ought to be a snap on a car hauler with a 150 or 250. Best advice is to drain tires and remove wheel weights. A regular M with a belly pump and no extran weight comes in very close to 5000#

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Patrick Martin

07-13-2007 17:33:20




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 It can be done!!!! :) in reply to HENRY E NC, 07-13-2007 12:36:00  
I just hauled two M's back from Mississippi with zero problems. Each tractor was in some state of disassembly but all were complete and hauled in one load each. I used a regular tandem axle utility trailer and pulled it with my F-150. My F-150 isn't a V-8 either, I have a 2000 F-150XL extended cab with 4.2L V-6 and 5 speed and she ferried each load like a dream, braked well too. I could have used my deuce but at 7 MPG diesel it would have been ridiculous. I just made sure to get the tractors centered nd strapped it down and schwiiing we were off. I still averaged 55MPH up to 65-70 on most stretches of highway. About a 550 mile round trip.

Here are some pics I took while stopped at a store.
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I hope this gives you some reassurance! It can be done! :)

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