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valve lash/timing

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MARK DOUD

07-17-2007 16:59:05




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I've got the old girl engine almost completed, but I'm a little unsure about a couple of things.

One is in the farmall manual I have it indicates that the valve timing should be .014 intake and .20 exhaust for engine with my serial number, and I've read different recommendations here on the site.

Can anyone give me some pointers on this? Also I can't seem to find any timing markers on the engine to match up with the pulley notches? Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks

Mark D.

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ScottyHOMEy

07-17-2007 18:07:15




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to MARK DOUD, 07-17-2007 16:59:05  
Not sure where you got those numbers from, Mark.

Intake and exhaust valve both shold be at .14, with the engine hot.

The mark on the engine will be notoriously hard to find. A SuperC was the first tractor I rebuilt and I couldn't find the mark on the flywheel before the rebuild. When I had her all apart, I found it -- a line on the flywheel, but not stamped very deeply, and hiding in the surface rust. While I had it off and put a new ring gear on, I masked it off and painted (horrors) a JD yellow stripe over it. Get your engine to where #1 is at TDC, and look for the mark through the handhole in the bottom. Trust me, it's there. It should line up with the nub that's on the back of the flywheel cover. At that point you'll be true on TDC, and can commence to setting your valve clearances.

Since there isn't a mark on the front of the engine for timing, you might find it useful (I have) to clean up a spot on the timing cover and the crank pulley once you get it to TDC. Take a piece of duct tape and draw a line on it with a marker. Stick the tape on the timing cover and the pulley so that the line bridges the gap, then cut it with a sharp knife. This will give you a reference point for TDC without having to crawl back under the tractor sixteen times. Works for setting valves, timing magnetos and all sort of other useful things.

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ScottyHOMEy

07-17-2007 18:17:52




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 Make that .014 in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 07-17-2007 18:07:15  
Sorry. Make that .014 for your tappet clearance.

Good speller, I am. Lousy typist. 8^(



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Mark Doud

07-17-2007 17:44:12




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to MARK DOUD, 07-17-2007 16:59:05  
Duh..... I guess that might be important. Super C, c123 engine, 3 1/4 bore(now)

Thanks!

Mark D.



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CNKS

07-17-2007 18:07:18




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to Mark Doud, 07-17-2007 17:44:12  
See the link, 0.014 hot for both intake and exhaust, maybe set them at 0.016-.017 cold, if it is a rebuilt engine, to start with, run it a few hours, retorque the head and set at 0.014 hot -- where did you get your information?



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Mark Doud

07-17-2007 18:30:50




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to CNKS, 07-17-2007 18:07:18  
I got the numbers from:

Service Manual
Engine & Fule System.
c123, c135, c-146 & c153 Revision 2 March 1977
Page. 1-18 Tappet clearance is marked with a symbol that has a comment associated with it that says:

Engines with Serial Number 95097 and up .014 intake, .020 exhaust.

Mark D.



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CNKS

07-17-2007 20:08:44




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to Mark Doud, 07-17-2007 18:30:50  
Assuming that is an IH publication I will take your word for it. However, I believe the C123 has all 6 digit serial numbers, and that the 0.020 applies to one of the later engines, but I don't know for sure. I don't know where the serials started for the C135-up. Perhaps someone will read this and clarify. I am not familiar with the C135 tractors, the earliest, I believe is the 330, followed by the 340.

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georgeky

07-17-2007 17:16:18




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to MARK DOUD, 07-17-2007 16:59:05  
Mark, not sure which tractor you are talking about since you didn't say, but if it is one of the smaller Farmalls all valves should be at 0.014. The H and larger at 0.017. Is it possible that you had read hot and cold settings, as they will be different?



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El Toro

07-17-2007 17:12:42




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 Re: valve lash/timing in reply to MARK DOUD, 07-17-2007 16:59:05  
Which tractor and engine? Hal



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