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Dalton S

07-26-2007 11:14:42




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Does any body know how many of the very first farmall H's were made? They were like a trial run before they changed things a little bit. One of the things I noticed they changed was the seat. There wasnt a channel on the floor for the special seats to fit into. Any advice is greatly appreciated.




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earlschieb

07-26-2007 21:50:27




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S, 07-26-2007 11:14:42  
A little trivia for you,


When I was a kid in Highland County Ohio, we had a neighbor up the road who had an early 1939 H, he had bought it new, on rubber, with the 2 row cultivators, and a 2 bottom plow. He dug out the original bill of sale on this purchase, $825.00, delivered, to his farm, brand new, dated in November 1939. If you lived in the area, you might remember him, his name was Jum Summers, and lived on Careytown Pike, north of Hillsboro.

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oldnnew

07-26-2007 16:45:30




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S, 07-26-2007 11:14:42  

The serial # on my '40 H is 12341 and it has the seat channel. Another difference is the filler neck on the gas tank. I think the early H's had a neck that was angled the same as the tank. If you look at a later H, you will notice that the filler neck is straight and not contoured with the tank.



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Paul G. in Mn

07-26-2007 18:17:18




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to oldnnew, 07-26-2007 16:45:30  
on the tank you will also notice the port on the bottem were the gas comes out is more tward the engine then on later models it is also smaller in size and if you look at the deprestion were its at it looks like a tear drop. The sediment bowl on these early ones that were disolate models was on the small tank and not on the big tanks thus the smaller port size.



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Paul G. in Mn

07-26-2007 16:36:46




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S, 07-26-2007 11:14:42  
These 39 H's and M's are definatly allot different then later models but it also went into part of 40 before they changed. Ive been doing allot of reserch on all the differences and hope to one day maybe put all I have learned on a web site. I own M sn 529 and H sn 9731. Just to give a couple examples of the differences are the petcocks on the oil pan are bent 1/4" rod instaid of the diamond butterflys. The front gas tank support is made of small peices of steel all welded togather instiad of being cast. of course the plateform and seat that you pointed out allready and also a different crank and fly wheel just to name a few. It seeams almost every day im learning a little something different about them.

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Dalton S.

07-26-2007 14:30:52




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S, 07-26-2007 11:14:42  
My Grandpas uncle bought the farmall H new in '39. There isnt a channel on the floor so I thought maybe it was the late forties instead. But I have also read that there was a trial run of the h's when they first came out. There wasnt a channel on the floor and something else but I forgot what it was. Then a little later on the seats got changed to the channel in the floor. I havent checked the serial # because it is all wore out. The tractor is also in a shed where it is dark. It is up at my grandpas farm, so the next time I go up there, I will bring a flashlight with and check it.

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CNKS

07-26-2007 19:02:58




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S., 07-26-2007 14:30:52  
Hard telling what the pre-production models were. As others have mentioned, the "slot top" trans/rear end cover and accompanying seat were on SN 501 thru 15697. For whatever reason the seat and trans cover on yours could have been changed. Look at the casting code on the front right of the cover, in the form of 7*8*I or July 8, 1939; J is 40, if it is a K (1941) or higher it is not the original cover for a 39 or some 40 models. I don't know the month it was changed in 1940, but if production was fairly even it was before mid-year. Those codes are pretty much fool proof. Also, if yours is a 1939, all casting codes on most major parts will have an I for the year. If an early 40, it can have both I and J codes.

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D Slater

07-26-2007 15:12:09




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S., 07-26-2007 14:30:52  
Pre production tractors used a few different seat types. Think they used slot in top by regular production but you never know. If tractor is a early one from 39 the serial # may be stamped in frame. Original engine serial # would probably matched tractor also. Round pipe seat started between tractor serial # 15000 and 16000, can't remember exact # without looking. Thats in 1940. If it is a early one with something different, Guy Fay or WHS may be able to help.

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HENRY E NC

07-26-2007 12:21:08




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S, 07-26-2007 11:14:42  
According to the serial numbers 1939 produced 10131 H's. Serial number ran from 501 to 10632. !940 had some changesand they made 41317. This information found in Guy Faye's Book--- International Harvester Tractor Data BooK available at Amazon. A very valuble souce to acquire.



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Janicholson

07-26-2007 12:19:40




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 Re: '39 H's in reply to Dalton S, 07-26-2007 11:14:42  
I didn't add them up, but looking left to "serial Numbers" will supply a partial answer. The grooved platform tops were carried over to the first of the 1940 units, I do not know the s# break. JimN



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