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Farmalls in the ocean?

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jonnny2006

08-01-2007 12:34:50




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i was just wondering if anyone has ever herd of any boats/ocean liners that sunk with new farmalls on board? I'm sure there has to be a few farmalls on the bottom of the ocean.




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Haas

08-01-2007 12:56:59




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 Re: Farmalls in the ocean? in reply to jonnny2006, 08-01-2007 12:34:50  
Can't say about ocean liners. However, they did use Hebard Shop Mules (made from Farmall A parts) on aircraft carriers. I talked with a fellow at a show once that had served on a carrier that had them. That was back in the 40s and early 50s I suppose. He said they had orders to push them overboard if they stalled on the deck during flight operations and that several met that fate.



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A. Bohemian

08-01-2007 17:52:07




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 Probably in reply to Haas, 08-01-2007 12:56:59  
They were a common Lend-Lease item, and many were shipped across the Atlantic. Model H was especially well-received in England; Model M was apparently a bit large for most English farms.

In all probability, some of these were on board ships that were sunk by U-boats. All sorts of stuff - Springfield rifles, Hallicrafters radios, Jeeps, Grant and Sherman tanks, and many hundreds of thousands of cans of Spam - went to the bottom. Americans just gritted their teeth and made more...

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Wardner

08-01-2007 20:02:42




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 Re: Probably in reply to A. Bohemian, 08-01-2007 17:52:07  
Some attribute the demise of the Indian Motorcycle to the sinking of 5000 military Indians on one ship heading to Europe. Harley-Davidsons were the only bikes that many young GI's got to ride.

At the risk of being flamed, H-D was a better motorcycle with its constant mesh transmission and the superior engineering of the impressive Knucklehead engine. Ask Joe Petralta and the highly respected H-D racing team. Although the Big Twins (Knuckles and big bore flatheads) were only produced in limited numbers during the war years, brand loyalty is a powerful incentive to buy what you are used to.

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mark

08-01-2007 20:14:27




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 Re: Probably in reply to Wardner, 08-01-2007 20:02:42  
I recall several years ago (like 30) an old vet telling me that when he shipped home from Europe in late '45, they met many ships offshore dumping brand new equipment of every type in the ocean. The eastern harbors were full of war materiel that simply was no longer needed and Uncle had no place to store it all. Furthermore, the manufacturers had agreements in place that when the war ended, Uncle Sam would not flood the market with surplus material....trucks, cars, jeeps, you name it....because they wanted to supply the huge demand for new machines when Johnny came marching home. I am satisfied if Uncle had any tractors in inventory sitting dockside...they took the deep six. The vet told me as they passed one ship, they were tossing Jeeps in the drink.

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