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h that does not want to run

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minnmeyer

08-15-2007 14:38:34




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i have done all i can think of.plugs,points,rotor,condensor,wires,went trough carb. checked float level,new gasket new needle and seat can't remember what else.cleaned out both fuel tanks and lines also cleaned that little screen in the carb.checked inyake bolts,checked head bolts,watched to see if ther might be a valve stuck,checked compression have between 95 and 100 in all cylinders.after it sits for a long time it will start right up but only runs for about 20 seconds.i am wondering if that neoprene tip on the needle might be the problem,i have had the carb apart a few times and it seemsto stick in the seat.the all brass ones must have worked too good.anybody with any ideas.one more thing on the exhaust manifold there is a little lever and two punch marks in the manifold where it stops on each end,any ideas on this little thing.

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El Toro

08-15-2007 16:10:41




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 Re: h that does not want to run in reply to minnmeyer, 08-15-2007 14:38:34  
Have you opened the main jet adjusting screw near the bottom of the carburetor? Check the suction
on the throat of the carburetor by holding your hand over it. Hal



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55 50

08-15-2007 15:13:11




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 Re: h that does not want to run in reply to minnmeyer, 08-15-2007 14:38:34  
"new" condensors have been known to be bad. Might try another one



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teddy52food

08-15-2007 15:06:19




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 Re: h that does not want to run in reply to minnmeyer, 08-15-2007 14:38:34  
Take the drain plug out from the bottom of the carb. It should flow into a container non stop for a couple minutes. If it does not , it is plugged someplace or the needle is not opening. If the flow is good, put a barb in the hole with a clear plastic tube and start the engine. watch the fuel level if and when it dies. Let us know what you find.



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Michael Soldan

08-15-2007 14:58:27




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 Re: h that does not want to run in reply to minnmeyer, 08-15-2007 14:38:34  
I hope you don't think I'm a smart alec, but many people get stumped by fuel...when you disconnect the line from the carb you should have a flow greater than you could pee when you were 16...many people see some fuel and say"yep we got fuel flow', when in fact they don't have fuel flow at all. Check that.



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Andy Martin

08-15-2007 15:54:21




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 Re: h that does not want to run in reply to Michael Soldan, 08-15-2007 14:58:27  
Yes, you need to let it flow for an extended period of time, not just a few seconds. Even though the fuel tank was "cleaned", could there be trash floating around in it which plugs the opening? I've had this happen and it ia aggravating and hard to find.

However, if it is 20 minutes before it will start, I'd change the coil. You did not mention coil, but a coil or a condenser can open up and then heal itsself when it cools. Crank the engine immediately after it dies and see if you have spark.

It's not compression, it is either spark or fuel and I'm betting spark at this point, until you prove it is fuel. If it is not spark, you can come off the carburetor drain with a plastic tube back up to higher than the fuel tank and see for yourself what the fuel level in the carburetor is doing as the tractor dies.

Then pull the fuel line off the carburetor inlet and let it run into a can and run a gallon or so. When it suddenly almost stops you know you have an obstruction from the carburetor to the tank. If it will run a gallon you know the probelm is in the carburetor. If you suspect the float valve, put in a new one, they are too cheap to worry over, but I have had good luck with the rubber tip ones so don't fret over putting another rubber one in.

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CityBoy-McCoy

08-15-2007 16:18:49




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 Re: h that does not want to run in reply to Andy Martin, 08-15-2007 15:54:21  
Very good/complete answer, Andy. I think I'm going to print it out and keep it in case I ever have a similar problem to Michael's. Thank you.



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