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Farmall Super M - Carb Problems

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Farmall Man

08-20-2007 18:04:19




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My Super M no longer pulls, get down in the field, and seems like it loads up and stalls out on the 9 ft disc... Cleaned and pulled the carb... and no help there... can't seem to get to anywhere near 5 turns open on the main fuel valve like the books says??? idle fuel screw is at 1.5 turns for a good idle... Changed coil, and now looking at plugs, points and condensor? Still a 6 volt system... got good charge of 7 amps at power.. am I off track??

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Bob M

08-20-2007 18:19:21




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 Re: Farmall Super M - Carb Problems in reply to Farmall Man, 08-20-2007 18:04:19  
When you say it "loads up" do you mean it smokes black and loses power, or does it lose power and stumble under load with no black in the exhaust?

If the former be looking for float level set too high, a float pontoon cracked/flooded, possibly an orifice ("jet") loose inside the float bowl, etc.

If the latter I'd start with the governor. Make sure it's opening the throttle plate the full 90 deg with the governor handle pulled back and the engine stopped.

Another thing to check is the spark timing - both at slow and max idle RPM. It should be at TDC at low idle and advance to 35 deg or so at speed. If it's not find and fix the cause before messing with the carburetor.

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Farmall Man

08-21-2007 19:36:39




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 Re: Farmall Super M - Carb Problems in reply to Bob M, 08-20-2007 18:19:21  
Seems like starts running ok cold, but then as things heat up, and it stumbles in the field, and I back off the throttle, let it smooth out, and then it can"t even pull itself..

The float is level, and tight, no leaks... carb looks clean and all fittings inside/jets are tight... I did take it off and put it back on... but it was tight coming off.. so that doesn"t seem to be it.

I do have 30 weight oil in air cleaner bowl, so it looks per the book, that I should change it to 10 weight. maybe too much air restriction??

I found the points, and condensor rusted up bad, and distributor full of dirt/rust... and now the plugs are fouled, so just put plugs, and points and condensor in... The points are set at .023", so I can tighten those up a bit.. I can also check timing.. and check for play for distributor rotor, and look for timing advance, and will check governor... I got it running but it was missing so have not had a chance to try it again... not sure why it was missing, unless it is the point gap..

So going to check spark on all the wires next, confirm timing.. point gap... just strange that the main jet has to be closed up to run half way decent..

Thanks for any help!

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Janicholson

08-20-2007 18:18:23




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 Re: Farmall Super M - Carb Problems in reply to Farmall Man, 08-20-2007 18:04:19  
Ill ad to Andy's comments that if the points are not set at .020", it will act wierd like that. Distributor shaft wear is also possible. Try to wiggle the shaft from side to side, and up and down. Any movement you can see is too much. It should have less than .001" movement in any radial direction. JimN



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Andy Motteberg

08-20-2007 18:07:35




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 Re: Farmall Super M - Carb Problems in reply to Farmall Man, 08-20-2007 18:04:19  
Is the float level set right and is the carb to manifold gasket good and bolts tight?



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Farmall Man

08-23-2007 20:09:39




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 Re: Farmall Super M - Carb Problems in reply to Andy Motteberg, 08-20-2007 18:07:35  
Yes, float is plumb, and bolts were tight... but may have too thick of oil in oil bath... will try that next... thanks!



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