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Super M overheats

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Al Rosa

08-23-2007 16:04:36




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My '53 Super M just started overheating recently.
The temp gauge shows overheating but the radiator doesn't seem to get hot. Obviously the coolant isn't circulating anymore, so I ordered a new thermostat to try before considering the water pump.
I am new with tractor stuff and don't know where the thermostat locates on the tractor. Any suggestions will make my task easier and be much appreciated.

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Brownie450

08-24-2007 05:24:19




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 Re: Super M overheats in reply to Al Rosa, 08-23-2007 16:04:36  
Is your fan belt tight & in good condition? A loose/old or worn fan belt will cause problems.



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ScottyHOMEy

08-23-2007 17:37:54




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 Re: Super M overheats in reply to Al Rosa, 08-23-2007 16:04:36  
If the radiator seems cooler than usual, the thermostat should be your prime suspect, but it wouldn't hurt to haul the grill off and haver a good look through the radiator, just to make sure the fins aren't plugged.

If a clean radiator and a new thermostat don't do it, have a look at your fuel mixture and timing.



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Patrick Martin

08-23-2007 16:44:34




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 Re: Super M overheats in reply to Al Rosa, 08-23-2007 16:04:36  
To check if the water pump is working, make sure the radiator is full and peer down into it while the tractor is running. If the water is moving then you know the pump is circulating. It should be moving fairly quickly but not gushing.

Now if it is not then grab the upper hose and give it a good hard squeeze. If the hose feels empty then it very well could be the thermostat. It's hard to tell this way on these tractors because they don't build up allot of pressure despite the fact that they have a pressurized cooling system. It is actually easier just to remove the upper hose and check to see if it is stuck.

Let me ask you this, how well do you take care of your cooling system? Do you flush it regularly and add coolant and by that I mean water AND a antifreeze with corrosion inhibitors????

If you are just filling it with water then you are ruining your cooling system and this goes for non-pressurized cooling systems without water pumps too (thermo-syphon). Never fail to add a good grade of antifreeze to your cooling system and be sure to change and flush it at least annually. Your block could be filled with so much goo and rust that the pump is having a hard time circulating the water. Maybe even the impeller on your pump has corroded away and there is nothing but a "nub" to circulate with! LOL!

Always use a good antifreeze in your system, firstly it provides the antifreeze compound (ethelyne glycol) and secondly a water soluble oil/corrosion inhibitor that will bond to the iron in the block and prevent scale buildup. It also lubricates the seals in your water pump too. As it heats and cools the oil/inhibitors steam off, the antifreeze never does but it won't prevent corrosion. That is why you need to change your coolant regularly.

I'd say run some radiator flush through your system first and see if it eats the crud up and frees your thermostat and cooling system up. Maybe run another if it seems to help and allot of rust comes out when you drain it.

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Patrick Martin

08-23-2007 16:50:59




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 Re: Super M overheats in reply to Patrick Martin, 08-23-2007 16:44:34  
By the way, the thermostat is located inside the upper radiator hose outlet and is retained by a snap ring. Simply remove the upper hose and, using a pair of needle nose pliers, compress the snap ring and remove the thermostat.

Be sure to clean the groove that the ring snaps in well before installing the new one.



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