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Tracy H

08-24-2007 03:17:18




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Trying to change the seals out of the steering box. How do you get the arm off the bottom of the steering box? I don’t think that it has ever been off.




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Hugh MacKay

08-24-2007 10:43:33




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 Re: 140 steering box in reply to Tracy H, 08-24-2007 03:17:18  
Tracy: If there is no end movement on steering shaft, it aint broke so don't fix it.

The keyways on the vertical shaft can become loose enough to give 1-1/2 turns free travel at the steering wheel. I wouldn't advise welding gear or control arm to the vertical shaft. What I have done is grind a larger key to fit the worn taper in the keyways, then welded key in the shaft, grinding it off enough so the gear is a press fit. The control arm being tapered can be drawn in place by the nut that holds it on. I look at welding key in shaft this way, shaft is toast anyhow, the gear and control arm can be repaired. By the way my Super A has 25 years in now with this fix, 15 of it was commercial agriculture and it is as tight as new.

When you finish, forget the gear oil, put zerks in and pump in 3 tubes of moly grease. That gear box was a poor design. I've never seen a new tractor that didn't leak by the time the tractor was 5 years old. My Super A hasn't leaked in 25 years. Add grease every time you grease tractor. Let face it, you find anyone using gear oil in that steering gear box, and has 25 years perfect steering in one of these offsets and you've found the guy that only looks at his tractor.

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Tracy H

08-24-2007 08:20:09




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 Re: 140 steering box in reply to Tracy H, 08-24-2007 03:17:18  
Thanks for the info.I appreshate uall taking the time to post me back.



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BIG RED 1

08-24-2007 06:07:42




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 Re: 140 steering box in reply to Tracy H, 08-24-2007 03:17:18  
remove entire assembly remove nut(before doing this tap around base)-dont weld back together
I just went thru a 3 yr restoration on one of these rigs-take your time.
good luck
Randy



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CityBoy-McCoy

08-24-2007 04:07:10




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 Re: 140 steering box in reply to Tracy H, 08-24-2007 03:17:18  
Right or wrong (and I don't like the sound of it, but) I know a man who has repaired many, many A-140 steering boxes and he hits the arm with a hammer where it protrudes from the front, knocking it loose. Once apart, he has the sector gear welded to the sector shaft to eliminate steering play. He says that is where 90% of the steering play comes from in these models, due to wallowed out keyways, splines, etc. mike durhan

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Super A

08-24-2007 07:25:33




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 Re: 140 steering box in reply to CityBoy-McCoy, 08-24-2007 04:07:10  
Cityboy is exactly right. A lot of the wear is at the pitman arm where it attaches to the sector shaft, or between the sector gear and shaft (the parts you are talking about welding.) Very seldom is there enough wear between the worm gear and the teeth on the sector gear to cause loose steering.

Have you priced a new gear/sector shaft lately? If you do you'll see that welding the gear to the shaft is indeed a viable option-- not only is it cheaper and will last longer, it does not affect the appearance of the tractor since it's internal.

Al

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