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Tom Lee

09-10-2007 07:00:12




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Is it worth putting electronic ignition on a 560 and how costly is it???




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David Goode

09-10-2007 17:20:10




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to Tom Lee, 09-10-2007 07:00:12  
I would highly recommend electronic ingintion. I Have converted both of my antique tractors to it, and all of my lawn mowers. It works so much better then points and capacitor, plus you don't have to worry about those parts. It starts so much better. The last owner on my Super M converted it allready but I reacantly bought a set for a 8N Ford and I saw Farmall ones, they seem to be about $80 but a VEARY GOOD envestment. -David Goode Coggon, IA

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Wardner

09-10-2007 11:30:39




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to Tom Lee, 09-10-2007 07:00:12  
The electronic ignition has made a big difference on my 1940 Harley which I use as a daily driver. Provided my pre-start routines are correct (choke, spark retard, fuel open, throttle position, key on, etc) it will always start on second kick when cold; first kick when hot. I think it has more power too. The cost was around $130 last winter.

I also have it on a SMTA and a 400. Didn't notice a significant improvement but they were good starters and runners prior to the installations. The ignitions are 5-6 years old. I think I paid around $65-70 for the Pertronix.

I am thinking about installing an ignition on one of my forklifts.

I like the fact that the ignition eliminates one troubleshooting variable should there be a problem on any of these engines.

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NawlensGator

09-10-2007 08:59:21




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to Tom Lee, 09-10-2007 07:00:12  

It was worth it to me. Paid ~ $95 for the electronic ignition and ~ $40 for the flame thrower coil (times two). Both my tractors now start better and run better. I was able to increase the plug gap from .022" to 0.044". Fooling around with points / condensers is now a thing of the past.



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El Toro

09-10-2007 08:06:12




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to Tom Lee, 09-10-2007 07:00:12  
You should notice a big difference in the starting
with electronic ignition. When GM came out with
their HEI ignition in the 1970's made a big difference in starting. A really big difference in cold weather starting. Hal



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John T

09-10-2007 07:27:49




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to Tom Lee, 09-10-2007 07:00:12  
Its your call. They are around $100 or less and HOPEFULLY N THEORETICALLY LOL will outlast many many sets of $25 or so points n condensors???

HOWEVER if you (as I strongly recommend) couple the elec switch with a matching high energy high voltage coil n run a wider plug gap youre gonna end up with much more spark gap energy n a hotter spark across a wider gap to better ignite the fuel then a stock points n condensor ignition PERIOD. Buttttt t unlike a set of burned points where if stuck in the field you might file the points n get back home, if the elec switch fails YOURE DEAD GRRRRR RRR

Your tractor your choice

John T

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notify

09-10-2007 08:00:55




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to John T, 09-10-2007 07:27:49  
what should be gap on the plugs with electronic ignition then?



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John T

09-10-2007 08:41:28




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 Re: electronic Ignition in reply to notify, 09-10-2007 08:00:55  
It depends on the coil used (its voltage rating) so go with the vendors recommendations, but that being said, Ive seen gaps of at least 0.035 to 0.050 or so (versus say 0.020 to 0.030 stock). That gives more arc surface area n arc length and the farther from the spark plugs ground strap the less heat sinking thats going on ..... I guess a dyno check is the only way to optimize things but as still limited by the switch n especially the coil used n their ratings.

John T

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