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chuck craig jr

09-16-2007 17:10:52




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I have some thing similar to this on "tractor talk" Lanse answered and was really helpful What are we going to do when he discovers "GIRLS" Could be worse Thanks Lanse. I was wondering,with some help from my wife of 54 yrs, of the relative merits and liabilities of the "C""H" "M" tractors. Will be doing some shallow dirt moving and grading on the dirt road,half mile.THANKS C C




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Rootsy

09-17-2007 08:48:36




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to chuck craig jr, 09-16-2007 17:10:52  
IMHO, If you are moving dirt (with a grader blade) and you want to run a loader on the front I'd look at a bit newer of a tractor than a letter series. Unless someone has added live hydraulic to a straight letter series the Lift-All will be a PITA for running a loader... every time you push the clutch in you have no hydraulic output as the belly pump stops running.
A fast hitch is needed at a minimum really to run a grader blade (again MHO). You can add 3 point adapters to the receivers and run a mounted grader blade or try to find a fast hitch blade. A true 3 point would be even better. Most implements you see today are fully mounted (IE 3 point attached). Again, unless someone has added an aftermarket 3 point or put a fast hitch on it, a letter series H or M will have nothing but a draw bar.
The Super series of H and M were available with live hydraulic as an option until the stage II SM and SH. The 300, 350, 400, 450 had factory options for fast hitch, live PTO, Live hydraulic, power steering, TA, etc and up to 3 different hydraulic circuits. A bit more functional and a bit more complicated than the letter series. Yet essentially the same chassis size, engine and frame layout.

Then, really, the newer you get from there the more evolved the tractors become and the more bells and whistles you'll see... guess it all depends on what you want to do, how willing you are to put in the effort to do things and how much you want to spend.

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Jim Becker

09-16-2007 20:51:18




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to chuck craig jr, 09-16-2007 17:10:52  
Don't know what the shallow dirt moving might be. But for grading the road, I would prefer a C with the IH snow blade mounted under the middle of the tractor. I'd even prefer a Super A with the same over any 3-point blade for maintaining a private roadway.



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Bob Kerr

09-16-2007 20:21:36




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to chuck craig jr, 09-16-2007 17:10:52  
I have an H with the original drawbar and an M with a 3 point hitch. I maintain a 1/2 mile long driveway in hill country and this year I used the M with a brand new but cheap tractor supply grader blade. I can tell you the M destroyed that blade when it hit a 1 and a half inch tree root. Ol M didn"t so much as bark and bent the blade so bad I can"t adjust it or get the pin out now and it is over 6 inches out of kilter. I use the H a lot for pulling logs and am seriously considering getting a 3 point for it so I can use it to bushhog and grade. I think it would be better than the M for most things I am using them for right now. Power is good, and small enough to get through tight spots in the woods, also easier to store! I like the M a lot, but it sure is big for in the woods! I have never been on a C before, but Georgeky sure likes his! I would have to say a C or H and get a fast hitch or 3 point.

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georgeky

09-16-2007 20:27:53




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to Bob Kerr, 09-16-2007 20:21:36  
Bob, you should get you one, then you would park that old H. I surely do like those C/SC/200. Just handy as a shirt pocket. Love my M's too, but they get harder to steer all the time. Haven't gotten to use my H yet, it need some attention first. I like sitting on it though.



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Bob Kerr

09-16-2007 22:10:18




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to georgeky, 09-16-2007 20:27:53  
Hi George, I may have screwed something up on my H. I bought one of those nice new upholstered seat pans. It is great on flat ground, but in those hills I am looking for something to keep me from sliding off the seat going downhill! These letter series need foot rests like on an F-12! I put a pan seat without uphostery on the M and it sits a lot better now than that ol high back.



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Dave H (MI)

09-16-2007 18:38:09




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to chuck craig jr, 09-16-2007 17:10:52  
I'm not sure you are getting a complete answer there and I am not entirely clear on what you are asking. I am no expert on fixing tractors but I sure spend a lot of time USING tractors. What does "shallow dirt moving" mean? You can't move dirt with a blade but you can grade it out and keep your road maintained pretty reasonably. If I were going to do this with a letter series Farmall it would need to be an H or M and I would want a wide front end. I would also think an aftermarket 3 pt hitch would be a must if you want to use a blade. An 8N or similar tractor might be something to consider as they are pretty nice for blade work. If you want to do loader work, wide and low are an advantage. Put some weight on the back end, don't turn sharp and go slow. Just my experience and I have maintained many miles of road in the last 20 years. HTH.

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CNKS

09-16-2007 17:22:37




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to chuck craig jr, 09-16-2007 17:10:52  
The bigger the tractor, the more power. For a rear blade either will do, although the M is probably overkill. If you are going to get a front loader, avoid the C as it does not have frame rails and is easier to damage. For what you want to do the H is probably ideal -- you will need an add-on 3 point for the blades on all of them, though. You can build a front mount blade -- I don't know if any are commercially available.

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georgeky

09-16-2007 17:29:39




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 Re: letter series Farmall in reply to CNKS, 09-16-2007 17:22:37  
Fast hitch on the Super C will accept a blade.



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