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Electrolysis revisited again

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HENRY E NC

09-18-2007 15:02:56




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Where does one get washing soda these days or what else can be used. I would think that baking soda or TSP might work. Comments please.




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GA Dave

09-19-2007 18:59:34




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
Arm and Hammer washing soda is all you need. Some people use lye and others (TSP/baking soda) but I know the washing soda works really good. Try this site www.fboerger.com and click on Restoration Tips. David.



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GeneMO

09-19-2007 08:39:54




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
Look in the laundry detergent section of your local grocery store. I found Arm and Hammer brand Washing soda, NOT baking soda, in the local store. Now they have baking soda also, but I was told to use washing soda. My tank works great! Used it for three or four months now. Never drained it or changed it. I initially mixed mine too strong I found out, so as it evaporates, I have just been adding water and it keeps on working. It's going right now.


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Butch WI

09-19-2007 08:01:13




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 Can electrolysis be done indoors? in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
Or does it need to be done outdoors for air quality issues? what could be done with the solution when your finished? How much can you clean with one batch- or maybe better put, how do you know when you need to change your solution?

Butch



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scott#2

09-18-2007 19:49:46




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
I always used lye, nutralize it with sulfuric acic when your done, turns it to saltwater.

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Good fast job.

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scott#2

09-18-2007 19:49:45




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
I always used lye, nutralize it with sulfuric acic when your done, turns it to saltwater.

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Good fast job.

scott#2



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Haas

09-19-2007 05:34:25




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to scott#2, 09-18-2007 19:49:45  
Be careful with that!! Should be done only in very dilute solution like the electrolysis solution. Sulfuric acid and Lye are both very corrosive agents and will cause big problems if you get them on your skin. If the solution is concentrated, a lot of heat will be generated and the result could be a violent reaction. The end result is a solution of Sodium Sulfate, not common salt. Better to just find some soda ash which is much safer.

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Haas

09-18-2007 18:17:27




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
Washing soda is Sodium Carbonate which is commonly called Soda Ash. It's available anywhere swimming pool supplies are sold, including the WalMart during pool season. Swimming pool folks call it PH+ or PH up. It's used to increase the PH of swimming pool water. A 5 lb jug runs $7 or so. Also, I've found that the local farm supply store (CO-OP) sells it in 50 lb bags for around $15 per bag. There it is just called Soda ash. For electrolysis parts cleaning, a 50 lb bag would be a lifetime supply.

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Hobo,NC

09-18-2007 16:57:29




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
I could not find it either. I took a trip out to Knoxville Tenn and found it a a Foodcity while restocking the cooler with beer and snacks. I brought a lifetime supply. I have not been able to find lye around here either.



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ScottyHOMEy

09-18-2007 15:08:46




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to HENRY E NC, 09-18-2007 15:02:56  
In the supermarkets, it's usually next to the 20-Mule Team Borax, usually off to the side of the mainline detergents. I'd never noticed it until I went looking for it, and, whaddaya know, it had been there all along. Shouldn't be hard to find.



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PaulW_NJ

09-18-2007 16:38:14




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 09-18-2007 15:08:46  
Definitely stick with washing soda. Bicarbonate of soda apparently doesn"t work as well, and I"ve heard reports both ways on TSP. Whatever you do avoid lye . . . it apparently works well enough, but there are too many serious safety issues associated with it. Remember, lye solution is what they use to take the meat off of bones, so imagine what it would do to your hands, or your eyes . . .



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karl f

09-19-2007 07:18:53




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to PaulW_NJ, 09-18-2007 16:38:14  
lye is also an ingredient in lutefisk! go figure
karl f



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Dave in Ms

09-19-2007 07:29:01




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 Re: Electrolysis revisited again in reply to karl f, 09-19-2007 07:18:53  
Pretzels too!
Kroger has washing Soda in a 2 lb. box. Been a while so can't remember price, but wasn't much as I recall.



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