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Plowing sod?!?! with Super C

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Andrew Z

09-29-2007 13:42:35

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Im plowing up some sod to put in winter rye for a neighbor, were are just expermenting with a small patch of the feild. And anyway its a old hay feild I was useing my Super C with a fast hitch plow and disk to break up the sod, second gear., but was having a heck of a time. I would get hugh clumbs of sod break off and jam the plow up and disking was not any easier, I still have to do about 2/3 of the patch and was wondering if there is any advice on how to do this soo its not sooo clumpy.

Always thanks for the help

Andrew

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teddy52food

10-01-2007 20:33:48

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

If you can find a 1 bottom plow with a rolling coulter in 16, 18, or 20 inch width, that is the way to go. Plow it shallow so the sod turns over and not just set it on edge. I broke many acres with a one 16 pull type plow behind my super C.

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Hugh Mackay

10-01-2007 03:12:54

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

Andrew: I'll side with Gordon and Gene, if your dealing with old sod Roundup is the way to go. I'll even add a suggestion, give it a good application of N about 10 days before the Roundup.

Old sod has always been hard to plow, it requires an excellent plow with just as excellent coulters, and set perfectly, then even if your a 20 year plowing vetran, you will still utter a few choice 4 letter words. Believe me, been there and done that before the days of Roundup.

Bear in mind I don't completely agree with Gordon. He's out there in the prarrie land of SD, probably 12" to 18" annual rainfall. He needs a taste of the east coast with 36" to 55" of annual rainfall. He'd find out notill works as long as you plow every 5 years.

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Dave BN

09-30-2007 14:56:24

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

Disc it several times before plowing, with the disc set almost straight. Disc both directions of the field. This will slice up the sod and it will break up easier when plowing. Have you used that plow before? If not you'll need to expirement a little to get it to plow right. How big is this plow? Heaver sod may require a sod buster plow, 20" or so. You should be able to pull that if your SC is in good shape but you will need 1st gear for that. You may be able to borrow one from an OLD farmer in the area. Yes it will get progressivly easier each time you work that field (at least twice a year) Dave.

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GordoSD

09-30-2007 07:34:09

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

Andrew. As long as you are doing experimental patches try yhis also. Do as Gene says, mow, roundup and disc. Then disc again, maybe three times, last time with very shallow depth and angle setting. Then brodcast the seed, and follow up with packer, or tooth harrow. No plowing. That rye or winter wheat is planted vey shallow and you shouldn't have to plow. Be sure and get a soil sample now so that if you need phosphorous, or potash you should apply that before you disc. Nitrogen will leech down quickly, but others tend to stay at the surface unless 'worked in'.

Gordo

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Andrew Z

09-30-2007 05:32:03

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

Thanks guys, i have the colters set on the plow, and the area is brush hogged soo I guess its just a long process!

Thanks!

Andrew

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GeneMO

09-29-2007 19:29:36

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

Here is how to do this. if you are not dealing with a real large acresge. Lets say 2-4 acres. Bushog the area. When the grass is actively growing, spray with Roundup.. ( just about need an an ATV for this). Wait 7-10 days, then run the disk over it two or three times. You can then plow with no problems as the grass will be dead, and the sod cut up by the disk.

BTDT many times. Fescue sod is a Mutha.

Gene

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Paul Shuler

09-29-2007 14:32:54

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

Been there done that. It is tough. My plow is missing the colters also. First gear was about all mine wanted. That old sod you could hear it just ripping and tearing. Also made for some very rough disking. On the good side I had some bare spots in my yard and I put some rolls of that sod in there and they have done well. Much better the next time you plow it.
Paul

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Jimmy King

09-30-2007 01:10:58

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Paul Shuler, 09-29-2007 14:32:54

Hey Paul, the next time lap 1/2 way over when disking and it won't be as rough riding it, plus tou will have disked it a little over twice when you are done.

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Red Dave

09-29-2007 14:01:19

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Re: Plowing sod?!?! with Super C in reply to Andrew Z, 09-29-2007 13:42:35

It often helps to have a coulter on the plow when plowing sod. A coulter is a straight disc that slices the sod just ahead of the plow. It should be directly in line with the shin of the plow bottom.

If you have one, it may need to be lower. If you don't have one, try a plow that does have one. Even if you have a coulter, it usually takes some experimentation to get it adjusted just right for each field and soil condition.

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